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> Racism is a sociological system that transcends the intentions of any one individual I think that's a rather ambitious definition of racism. Racism is the di
by SamUK96 10y ago
> Racism is a sociological system that transcends the intentions of any one individual
I think that's a rather ambitious definition of racism. Racism is the discrimination of some person/group due to their race. You are either denying that being white is a race (Caucasian more specifically), or you are denying the global definition of the word. Both are wrong.
Anyway, onto your pseudo-fact opinions, since these are always sad to see purported as facts on HN:
> Today, the likelihood that you'll be shot by a cop if you're black is astronomically higher than if you're white.
...Because black crime is 4x greater, not from any mass cop bias. False correlation. Also, "astronomical" is a totally inappropriate exaggeration. Please, look at statistics before hurling words at screens.
> so they can't benefit from institutional racism.
But, that is not even "racism". That is an expansion of the term that is not the term itself. It's irrelevant. Also, have you seen US University GPA requirements? I think you'll find that it favors POC more than anybody, and makes it hardest for Asians, then whites. So. That's not universally correct right off the bat.
> "Thing" is already White by default.
Another exaggeration.
Regardless, I definitely do disagree with your general opinion that negative past events towards POC should mean they are treated specially now. Like in another comment, don't you think that trying to "revenge" on historical racism by being racist again with opposite races, is a little, well, stupid? You can already see that it doesn't work by how dissatisfied white people are with this mindset.
- pj_mukh 10y ago"...Because black crime is 4x greater" Why is that? Why is it that every voice like yours stops the analysis there. "Black crime commit more crimes, end of story". Ask the 5 why's! You don't think there are institutional and socio-cultural (history driven) issues that lead to this?
- SamUK96 10y agoIronically, could it be black culture that causes it? You have all sorts of terrorist groups like BLM that are telling, instructing, pleading all black people to commit crimes. That's definitely not anecdotal.
- pj_mukh 10y agoAnd where do you think culture comes from? 5-whys. Keep going.
- SamUK96 10y agoNatural human behavior to seek revenge/justice for past events, regardless if it makes your "side" net worse off.
- pj_mukh 10y agoWell, you don't get to define what's "worse-off" for another culture. And should that give us pause about current policies that may cause the same behaviour later on?
- pj_mukh 10y agoMy eyes were opened to this when I was able to have an honest and open conversation with an African-American friend (I'm not American and never understood the history), and he described the level of victimisation that is passed on from generation to generation after traumatic events that span multiple generations. There is a deep wound in American history that is unique to the African-American experience. Museums like this try to capture some of it. But really, America should be looking to Truth and Reconciliation commission type of platforms that has worked in other places. Finish what was started in the Reconstruction-era, or continue to suffer from this wound.
- michaelbuddy 10y agoAnd yet when questioned about crimes they commit, criminals provide testimony by and large that has nothing to do with what you are saying. We have a lot of testimony from criminals. Your excuse is not their excuse. Which means you are inventing a victimhood narrative. This harms black communities.
- SolaceQuantum 10y agoBLM is a terrorist group? I didn't realize they were put on a list by the southern poverty law center or the American department of homeland security. Can I have a link? Extremely interested.
- michaelbuddy 10y agoMany people would love to know Why blacks commit more crimes per capita. And you can compare it to poor whites and they don't equal out even there. Why is that. Why is it that you excuse people of the crimes they commit b/c of socio-cultural history. If your sister was raped, would you accept the socio-cultural buzzword excuse by the offender?
- sctb 10y agoWe've banned this account for continuing to post political and ideological rants after we've asked you repeatedly to stop. That's not what this site is for, and it's an abuse to use it primarily for that purpose.