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half < all/most There is not more to say than that. Pretty sad that a foreigner needs to teach you English.

by Mithaldu 10y ago

reitanqild 10y ago
I think you might have missed part of the context as well. /foreigner
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  The non-equality of half and most is unaffected by any context.
  - reitanqild 10y ago
    I give you an upvote for that. But I think the idea is clear and you are needlessly discussing over one word instead of focusing on how this could happen. (Yes, I don't like Trump but I think we - at least Europeans - should respect Americans and their choice.)
    - Mithaldu 10y ago
      Here's my reason why there's nothing i can respect there: One of my best friends is a person in the USA, requiring constant medical support (literally one skipped day can kill them) in a queer marriage. The people directly around trump would rather see my friend die, alone. Not all of the people who voted for him, by far. Many are not even aware of the consequences this has already had. (Yes, various friends of mine have been accosted on streets by complete strangers just for existing.) Many can be talked to and would understand the situation. But respect? For casting a vote to spite people? For casting a vote without having done proper research? Sorry, i have none. Not until i know that my friend can live in safety and dignity.
      - LyndsySimon 10y ago
        > But respect? For casting a vote to spite people? For casting a vote without having done proper research? You seem to be assuming that no one voted for Trump, only against Hillary. Personally, I voted for him because I support his Supreme Court nominees and his gun rights platform.
        Mithaldu 10y ago
        No, i am assuming that many people were direly mislead. Also, do you support his nominee William Pryor?
        reitanqild 10y ago
        > Also, do you support his nominee William Pryor? Do you support the Iraqi war? Because the other candidate did. This is not all black and white.
        Mithaldu 10y ago
        She supported it in the past. She did also: At the very least make the effort to claim she does not any more, at the very least researched the words a person actually believing those things would use, and at the very least made the effort of claiming she would not repeat such. Or is this fake? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/07/hillary_clinton_voting_for_iraq_war_was_from_my_perspective_my_mistake.html http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/07/hillary_cl... If it's real, I'm ready to give her the benefit of the doubt. If Pryor disawoved his previous actions in a similarly convincing manner, i would also give him the benefit of the doubt. But right now he has made no such statements, leaving me to believe he both internally and externally still stands by them; and is thus at least down vis-a-vis Hillary on one count.
        LyndsySimon 10y ago
        The name is familiar, but doesn't ring a bell. After a cursory overview of his Wikipedia page I didn't see anything that jumps out at me as disqualifying.
LyndsySimon 10y ago
The difference between "half" and "most" is literally infinitely small, as "most" literally means "more than half". But again, I'm not arguing that Clinton said that most Trump supporters are racist. I'm arguing that the prevailing belief amongst Democrats is that racism and sexism is both common and accepted within the GOP. That's utter nonsense.
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  Then you should have said those words instead of stomping in with a quote, a counter quote and a mic drop.
  - LyndsySimon 10y ago
    That was not my intention.

half < all/most There is not more to say than that. Pretty sad that a foreigner needs to teach you English.

reitanqild 10y ago

I think you might have missed part of the context as well. /foreigner

Mithaldu 10y ago
The non-equality of half and most is unaffected by any context.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  I give you an upvote for that. But I think the idea is clear and you are needlessly discussing over one word instead of focusing on how this could happen. (Yes, I don't like Trump but I think we - at least Europeans - should respect Americans and their choice.)
  - Mithaldu 10y ago
    Here's my reason why there's nothing i can respect there: One of my best friends is a person in the USA, requiring constant medical support (literally one skipped day can kill them) in a queer marriage. The people directly around trump would rather see my friend die, alone. Not all of the people who voted for him, by far. Many are not even aware of the consequences this has already had. (Yes, various friends of mine have been accosted on streets by complete strangers just for existing.) Many can be talked to and would understand the situation. But respect? For casting a vote to spite people? For casting a vote without having done proper research? Sorry, i have none. Not until i know that my friend can live in safety and dignity.
    - LyndsySimon 10y ago
      > But respect? For casting a vote to spite people? For casting a vote without having done proper research? You seem to be assuming that no one voted for Trump, only against Hillary. Personally, I voted for him because I support his Supreme Court nominees and his gun rights platform.
      - Mithaldu 10y ago
        No, i am assuming that many people were direly mislead. Also, do you support his nominee William Pryor?
        reitanqild 10y ago
        > Also, do you support his nominee William Pryor? Do you support the Iraqi war? Because the other candidate did. This is not all black and white.
        Mithaldu 10y ago
        She supported it in the past. She did also: At the very least make the effort to claim she does not any more, at the very least researched the words a person actually believing those things would use, and at the very least made the effort of claiming she would not repeat such. Or is this fake? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/07/hillary_clinton_voting_for_iraq_war_was_from_my_perspective_my_mistake.html http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/07/hillary_cl... If it's real, I'm ready to give her the benefit of the doubt. If Pryor disawoved his previous actions in a similarly convincing manner, i would also give him the benefit of the doubt. But right now he has made no such statements, leaving me to believe he both internally and externally still stands by them; and is thus at least down vis-a-vis Hillary on one count.
        LyndsySimon 10y ago
        The name is familiar, but doesn't ring a bell. After a cursory overview of his Wikipedia page I didn't see anything that jumps out at me as disqualifying.

LyndsySimon 10y ago

The difference between "half" and "most" is literally infinitely small, as "most" literally means "more than half". But again, I'm not arguing that Clinton said that most Trump supporters are racist. I'm arguing that the prevailing belief amongst Democrats is that racism and sexism is both common and accepted within the GOP. That's utter nonsense.

Mithaldu 10y ago
Then you should have said those words instead of stomping in with a quote, a counter quote and a mic drop.
- LyndsySimon 10y ago
  That was not my intention.