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No, they are posting anti-white bigotry and threats to kill the President. Twitters "cultural background training" for its new mods surely contains the progres

• legodt 10y ago
  How can you be racist against the ruling, privileged class? Sure, white people can have it bad too, but we still have all the privilige and automatic perks. It isn't bigotry as much as self defense against how many white people are still deeply entrenched in racism. As a whole, white people are still oppressors.
  • newaccount3574 10y ago
    if you blame "white males" for everything and shoot down any counter-argument with "privilege" then yes, you're being racist, because you're stereotyping an entire race.
  • tomschlick 10y ago
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism > a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race Nothing in there about privilege. You can't just redefine a word because you say thats what it should mean. Every race can be racist.
    • legodt 10y ago
      The current axiom is that yes, anybody can have prejudiced views about anybody else. Sure, and it's perfectly fine and normal to feel hurt when you are getting the hit from it. But the way progressives talk about racism today is that racism is prejudice + power structures. You can be hated all day long for being a white person, but until people of color are pulling all the invisible power structures, it doesn't really go farther than that. This doesn't invalidate that people hurled terrible insults at you, but there are not any vast structures in place to systemically keep you down as a result of these prejudices.
      • tomschlick 10y ago
        Then pick a different word. That one already has a meaning and it is not what you just described. What you just described is actual racism. It's determining what someone may or may not have experienced based on their race. No matter their economical situation, family situation, etc. That line of thinking needs to die off.
  • tomp 10y ago
    Even thinking of "whites" as "privileged" is racism. In reality, different people are different (shocker, I know). Obama's family (half-black) is much more privileged than many white straight men that are homeless. If instead of race you focused on circumstances that actually matter (bad family background, poverty, uneducated, jobless), you'd achieve much more.
    • legodt 10y ago
      Please read this: http://occupywallstreet.net/story/explaining-white-privilege-broke-white-person http://occupywallstreet.net/story/explaining-white-privilege...
      • nathanasmith 10y ago
        First example from your article: "I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented." Someone being the same color as me doesn't mean they "represent" me in any way. The main criticism of the mass media over the last year and a half was how they breathlessly promoted Clinton. Yet white people turned up in droves to not vote for her. Many of those same white people voted for Obama twice. Yet he isn't white. The white privilege narrative from the perspective of your article is simple-minded and reductionist in the extreme. Please watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxZRuL65wQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxZRuL65wQ
      • tomp 10y ago
        Everyone is privileged in some ways. But just because you find one way in which a person is privileged, it doesn't mean that that fact trumps all other person's circumstances. Yes, in the US, a white homeless person might be better off that a black homeless person. But to speak of "white privilege" in general is to disregard or deny all other circumstances, except race.
    • SolaceQuantum 10y ago
      Racial conflict in America is something that occurs and has modern repercussions. Race matters to a lot of people and should be recognized as having an axiom of privilege not unlike class (which you broght up), gender identity, and sexuality. If you don't believe that different skin colors are treated differently in America I beg you to speak with myself or another person of color of how they have been outsided or treated in uncomfortable and unpleasant ways for no other reason than their skin color. Alternatively, we can examine why black people are jailed for lesser offenses than whites, regardless of class.
  • psyc 10y ago
    It's extremely convenient when the major labels that you use to demonize your political opponents cannot apply to you, even when you do the exact same behavior, based on definitions that your side made up. Extremely convenient.
    • legodt 10y ago
      Who said they don't apply to everyone?
      • nathanasmith 10y ago
        > Who said they don't apply to everyone? >> How can you be racist against the ruling, privileged class? The first quote is what I am replying to, the second is your comment to someone else from up thread. The fact that you are so conflicted regarding your own views suggests you need to think about them more carefully.