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That's very true. They make great products that are very well thought of down to the last pixel-perfect detail. They draw on many years of experience and hard w

by mixmax 17y ago

That's very true. They make great products that are very well thought of down to the last pixel-perfect detail. They draw on many years of experience and hard work to make the products they do.

grinich 17y ago
They have different priorities than a lot of other tech companies. Apple’s goal isn’t to make money. Our goal is to design and develop and bring to market good products…We trust as a consequence of that, people will like them, and as another consequence we’ll make some money. But we’re really clear about what our goals are. - Jonathan Ive, VP of Industrial Design at Apple
_sh 17y ago
I was made acutely aware of this the other day when out with my girlfriend to pick up: a replacement iPod for her and a cordless phone. After playing with an iPod nano for a couple of minutes while settling on colour/features etc, we then went to look at the cordless phones... The contrast in design choice just left me depressed. All the phones were crappy, ugly things, with user interfaces that were just awful. Maybe they had really good features but I didn't care, because it looked to me as though the designers didn't care about their product. And this was something I was going to bring into my home and use everyday! The whole experience left me bummed. I left with just the iPod.
- dejb 17y ago
  You do realise your story essentially supports the notion that your purchase was based on fashion and signalling right? I mean "Maybe they had really good features but I didn't care" actually typifies my view of an Apple fan.
  - mixmax 17y ago
    No, it was based on product quality, not fashion. There's a huge difference between the two.
    - dejb 17y ago
      "Product quality" that doesn't relate to functionality is fashion in my view. Think about it.
dejb 17y ago
> down to the last pixel-perfect detail Placing this level of importance on aesthetics indicates that signalling IS an important factor. Most people who don't care about (or don't even understand) signalling generally wouldn't even notice 'the last pixel-perfect detail'. There's nothing wrong with liking nice clothes though, as long as they do the job.
- MikeCapone 17y ago
  Most of the attention to detail at Apple is about functionality, and taking out non-functional things, though. It's not "peacock" design, or at least, not too much.

by mixmax 17y ago

That's very true. They make great products that are very well thought of down to the last pixel-perfect detail. They draw on many years of experience and hard work to make the products they do.

grinich 17y ago

They have different priorities than a lot of other tech companies. Apple’s goal isn’t to make money. Our goal is to design and develop and bring to market good products…We trust as a consequence of that, people will like them, and as another consequence we’ll make some money. But we’re really clear about what our goals are. - Jonathan Ive, VP of Industrial Design at Apple

_sh 17y ago

I was made acutely aware of this the other day when out with my girlfriend to pick up: a replacement iPod for her and a cordless phone. After playing with an iPod nano for a couple of minutes while settling on colour/features etc, we then went to look at the cordless phones... The contrast in design choice just left me depressed. All the phones were crappy, ugly things, with user interfaces that were just awful. Maybe they had really good features but I didn't care, because it looked to me as though the designers didn't care about their product. And this was something I was going to bring into my home and use everyday! The whole experience left me bummed. I left with just the iPod.

dejb 17y ago
You do realise your story essentially supports the notion that your purchase was based on fashion and signalling right? I mean "Maybe they had really good features but I didn't care" actually typifies my view of an Apple fan.
- mixmax 17y ago
  No, it was based on product quality, not fashion. There's a huge difference between the two.
  - dejb 17y ago
    "Product quality" that doesn't relate to functionality is fashion in my view. Think about it.

dejb 17y ago

> down to the last pixel-perfect detail Placing this level of importance on aesthetics indicates that signalling IS an important factor. Most people who don't care about (or don't even understand) signalling generally wouldn't even notice 'the last pixel-perfect detail'. There's nothing wrong with liking nice clothes though, as long as they do the job.

MikeCapone 17y ago
Most of the attention to detail at Apple is about functionality, and taking out non-functional things, though. It's not "peacock" design, or at least, not too much.