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Although Twitter obviously has the right to do this, legally, I don't think it is good. Twitter is esentially a public infrastructure for real-time communicati

by ve55 10y ago

Although Twitter obviously has the right to do this, legally, I don't think it is good. Twitter is esentially a public infrastructure for real-time communication. We have public officials from countries all over the world that use Twitter to communicate to their citizens. For that (and similar) reasons, I would strongly prefer if Twitter didn't go around policing what types of political opions are okay and aren't. Even if you really hate the people that Twitter bans, imagine if things were the other way around, and they started banning very liberal users.

robbiemitchell 10y ago
They're not getting banned for opinions, they're getting banned for their actions on Twitter.
- monkmartinez 10y ago
  Eh? Can you please explain the difference... it's 140 characters of text FFS.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    Someone can say they hate The Jews on Twitter. What they can't do is say they hate a particular Jewish person, and link to that person's account, and encourage their tens of thousands of followers to post anti Semitic hate to that person.
    - FilterSweep 10y ago
      a source for [Parent] is the Milo Yiannopoulos and Leslie Jones fiasco.
    - Wellshit 10y ago
      > What they can't do is say they hate a particular Jewish person, and link to that person's account, and encourage their tens of thousands of followers to post anti Semitic hate to that person. Like, let's say, kill DT because [insert victim group du jour here]ism? Or I'll kill you because u so white, and kill all white people? #noracist
  - robbiemitchell 10y ago
    An opinion sits in your head. Twitter cannot observe an opinion on its own. An opinion translated to action, though -- here in the form of Tweets -- is not merely an opinion. Twitter has a thing called "The Twitter Rules" which includes a section on "Abusive Behavior". https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311 https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311 Here's some of Twitter's relevant rules: Harassment: You may not incite or engage in the targeted abuse or harassment of others. Some of the factors that we may consider when evaluating abusive behavior include: - if a primary purpose of the reported account is to harass or send abusive messages to others; - if the reported behavior is one-sided or includes threats; - if the reported account is inciting others to harass another account; and - if the reported account is sending harassing messages to an account from multiple accounts. Hateful conduct: You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or disease. We also do not allow accounts whose primary purpose is inciting harm towards others on the basis of these categories.
legodt 10y ago
The very liberal users aren't inciting hate speech, racist, misogynistic, and often times anti semitic attacks on other users en masse
- monkmartinez 10y ago
  You aren't serious are you? The "alt-right" movement has put out several videos in recent days that shows just that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpi3F0E5ro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpi3F0E5ro
- aaron-lebo 10y ago
  You really just aren't looking: https://www.reddit.com/r/UofT/comments/4rr3ga/blm_toronto_white_people_are_subhuman_xpost/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UofT/comments/4rr3ga/blm_toronto_wh... That's Facebook but you can find blatantly racist, sexist, etc stuff from people on the left of the political spectrum on every major social network these days.
  - legodt 10y ago
    This is clearly a satirical response to the type of logic used by white supremacists to bolster a concept of genetic superiority over other ethnicities. Imagine just for a moment being black and hearing the inverse of this statement every day online
    - aaron-lebo 10y ago
      Have you not heard of the Nation of Islam? You know that the 7/7 Dallas shooter (Micah Johnson) was inspired by black supremacist hate speech, right?
      - legodt 10y ago
        The nation of Islam is a horribly depressing group also standing on a platform kf misogyny and anti semitism. They are an extremist group that luckily has been waning in recent years. Also, unlike white people, they have never held a monopoly on power, instated discriminatory laws, stopped white people from securing proper jobs or housing, or became police offers that then killed white people with impunity.

by ve55 10y ago

robbiemitchell 10y ago

They're not getting banned for opinions, they're getting banned for their actions on Twitter.

monkmartinez 10y ago
Eh? Can you please explain the difference... it's 140 characters of text FFS.
- DanBC 10y ago
  Someone can say they hate The Jews on Twitter. What they can't do is say they hate a particular Jewish person, and link to that person's account, and encourage their tens of thousands of followers to post anti Semitic hate to that person.
  - FilterSweep 10y ago
    a source for [Parent] is the Milo Yiannopoulos and Leslie Jones fiasco.
  - Wellshit 10y ago
    > What they can't do is say they hate a particular Jewish person, and link to that person's account, and encourage their tens of thousands of followers to post anti Semitic hate to that person. Like, let's say, kill DT because [insert victim group du jour here]ism? Or I'll kill you because u so white, and kill all white people? #noracist
- robbiemitchell 10y ago
  An opinion sits in your head. Twitter cannot observe an opinion on its own. An opinion translated to action, though -- here in the form of Tweets -- is not merely an opinion. Twitter has a thing called "The Twitter Rules" which includes a section on "Abusive Behavior". https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311 https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311 Here's some of Twitter's relevant rules: Harassment: You may not incite or engage in the targeted abuse or harassment of others. Some of the factors that we may consider when evaluating abusive behavior include: - if a primary purpose of the reported account is to harass or send abusive messages to others; - if the reported behavior is one-sided or includes threats; - if the reported account is inciting others to harass another account; and - if the reported account is sending harassing messages to an account from multiple accounts. Hateful conduct: You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or disease. We also do not allow accounts whose primary purpose is inciting harm towards others on the basis of these categories.

legodt 10y ago

The very liberal users aren't inciting hate speech, racist, misogynistic, and often times anti semitic attacks on other users en masse

monkmartinez 10y ago
You aren't serious are you? The "alt-right" movement has put out several videos in recent days that shows just that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpi3F0E5ro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpi3F0E5ro
aaron-lebo 10y ago
You really just aren't looking: https://www.reddit.com/r/UofT/comments/4rr3ga/blm_toronto_white_people_are_subhuman_xpost/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UofT/comments/4rr3ga/blm_toronto_wh... That's Facebook but you can find blatantly racist, sexist, etc stuff from people on the left of the political spectrum on every major social network these days.
- legodt 10y ago
  This is clearly a satirical response to the type of logic used by white supremacists to bolster a concept of genetic superiority over other ethnicities. Imagine just for a moment being black and hearing the inverse of this statement every day online
  - aaron-lebo 10y ago
    Have you not heard of the Nation of Islam? You know that the 7/7 Dallas shooter (Micah Johnson) was inspired by black supremacist hate speech, right?
    - legodt 10y ago
      The nation of Islam is a horribly depressing group also standing on a platform kf misogyny and anti semitism. They are an extremist group that luckily has been waning in recent years. Also, unlike white people, they have never held a monopoly on power, instated discriminatory laws, stopped white people from securing proper jobs or housing, or became police offers that then killed white people with impunity.