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How about suspending people who openly advocate genocide? #killallmen

• CoryG89 10y ago
  Gendercide?
• venomsnake 10y ago
  Most of using this hashtag are modern feminists and allies. The subgroup using the hashtag can only be taken figuratively since surely as hell they don't have the brains, smarts, will and capacity to make the genocide happen.
• kelukelugames 10y ago
  As an able bodied straight male working in tech, I don't understand how any man can be offended by the killallmen hashtag. I don't feel threatened. They can't even hurt my feelings. Offended men must be very soft and have small dongles.
  • huffpopo 10y ago
    I remember the die techie scum protests. Vomiting on busses, throwing rocks at bus windows etc. It was very threatening.
    • CoryG89 10y ago
      Oh yes, the "poor" rich people being threatened by the actual poor. Very threatening indeed.
      • huffpopo 10y ago
        Going to work each day worried that I might get hit by a brick and broken glass was very threatening indeed. And for the record I'm from a poor background and worked my whole life hard for that job. I saved the money I got from it so I could work full time on improving the lives of my fellow humans - which is what I do now.
        • CoryG89 10y ago
          Don't mistake it for sarcasm. I don't doubt you had real cause to be threatened. Just pointing out the irony. As someone who also comes from a relatively poor background, I would think that, while threatened, you also understand why some people may have felt the way they did. If a large tech company wants to thrive in a particular area they should make sure they don't alienate any groups already existing in that area to the extent that they feel the need to wake up early in the morning to go and throw rocks to get their attention. If it gets to this point, the company should do something to try to address the issue, and any employee that genuinely feels threatened should refuse to work until their employer provides a safe working environment.
          • thro32 10y ago
            Is there any chance that those "actual poor" people were not locals, but some rich college kids?
            • CoryG89 10y ago
              Possibly, but I saw no reporting on any protestors that were not local and I still can't find any evidence of that. Also I would tend to assume that the local activists there on principle (not poor) were probably not the same ones throwing rocks.
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  • chippy 10y ago
    >I don't understand how any man can be offended by the killallmen hashtag You say don't understand. Do you want to? They clue to your lack of understanding is in the first part of the sentence > As an able bodied straight male working in tech Perhaps if you imagine yourself to be someone else in another background, place, circumstances you can begin to see why a hashtag which appears (if one was unfamiliar with the history of it) to advocate the killing of millions might be offensive to some people. You might even come to the conclusion that while you don't find it personally offensive you can understand that some might find it troublesome.
  • thro32 10y ago
    It is about applying the same rules to everyone. Plus it is illegal in many countries. And my group (I am from east europe) was target of 6 genocides/persecutions in past century. I feel threatened, to the point I turned down some job offers.
  • adekok 10y ago
    Here's a simple test. Take someone's rhetoric, like "killallmen". And replace the target with "Jews". If the updated statement feels racist and evil, then the original is also racist and evil. There's an entire subreddit devoted to this idea: https://www.reddit.com/r/menkampf/ https://www.reddit.com/r/menkampf/ It's eye-opening just how racist many "mainstream" comments are.
    • FilterSweep 10y ago
      Not to detract from your main message, but much of #killallmen was actually males from 4Chan during "Operation Lollipop" (source is a quick Google away off the quoted words). They also had #BanFathersDay trending
      • adekok 10y ago
        There are many people who seriously advocate for this: Links: http://www.dailywire.com/news/8386/feminist-journalist-all-men-are-rapists-and-should-amanda-prestigiacomo# http://www.dailywire.com/news/8386/feminist-journalist-all-m... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/is-reducing-the-male-populati... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Daly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Daly Quotes: “I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” – Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor “I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” — Andrea Dworkin “The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart Or Marilyn French, who believes that all men are rapists, and that in private, they boast to each other about how many women they've raped. And that the population of men should be reduced.
    • moskie 10y ago
      But the difference is the context of history, right? While I definitely don't advocate for any "killallmen" stuff, I can recognize the difference between Jews, who were the actual target of a real genocide in which millions died and whose people are located in a country in a region embroiled in actual physical wars, vs men who are the target of.... internet campaigns? A key aspect is how these sentiments manifest (or have manifested) in a tangible sense.
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