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I can only see this as furthering the echo chamber that caused many to be so blindsided by Trumps victory. I would like to see specifically why these people we

• kelukelugames 10y ago
  I've seen no evidence of trump supporters being targeted. There is no trend. edit: wait, is it possible that just because I don't see it happening doesn't mean it isn't? Kind of like police brutality against black lives?
  • Sir_Substance 10y ago
    That's because you're not looking for it. Anyone who protests gets muzzled along with the banee.
    • gilleain 10y ago
      Banee? Is that "someone who has been banned"?
  • akerro 10y ago
    I didn't followed too much news recently, but two that I heard about, I bet there was/will be more. http://www.dailywire.com/news/10664/video-trump-voter-dragged-his-car-and-beaten-gang-chase-stephens http://www.dailywire.com/news/10664/video-trump-voter-dragge... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/anders-vendel-donald-trump-chef-beaten-looking-like-us-president-condemns-scary-media-coverage-a7418061.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/anders-vendel...
    • secretRubyDev 10y ago
      A couple of others: http://nypost.com/2016/11/14/teen-girl-says-she-was-brutally-beaten-for-supporting-trump/ http://nypost.com/2016/11/14/teen-girl-says-she-was-brutally... http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/trump_supporter_assaulted_by_2.html http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/trump_sup... http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/black-lives-matter-protester-attacks-lives-matter-foe-74-article-1.2869067 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/black-lives-ma... http://patch.com/massachusetts/boston/trump-supporter-allegedly-attacked-outside-bar http://patch.com/massachusetts/boston/trump-supporter-allege... http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/subway-rider-attacks-trump-fan-america-great-hat-article-1.2870597 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/subway-rider-a... There are attacks happening on both sides and it's really pushing us into a scary position as a country. What makes things worse is we have people faking attack stories as well which will likely lead to further violence as people feel the need to retaliate: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/1... Both sides really need to take a step back and realize they're just continuing the divide. I'm personally against Twitter banning folks unless they're engaging in harassment of other users. It would be nice though if the platforms like Twitter and Facebook more severely punished those harassing others though.
• arkitaip 10y ago
  But these alt-right figureheads aren't your average trump voters. They actually are racist and nasty people and we shouldn't group them together with other conservative/right/trump voters.
  • jinfiesto 10y ago
    I'm not sure why the above is down-voted. There's a litany of evidence to suggest that this is actually true.
    • the-dude 10y ago
      Such heavy claims require evidence. Also, it is painting one group as a whole, which reminds me of ...
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      • bakhy 10y ago
        "reminds me of" != "is".
      • jinfiesto 10y ago
        I don't think it's painting one group as a whole at all. No one is suggesting that all or most Trump supporters are racist. Only that many alt-right figure heads are. It's not a heavy claim. With Steve Bannon being appointed to the upcoming White House staff, there's been a parade of examples illustrating the blatant racism of alt-right figureheads. While I appreciate the sentiment that Democrats lost the election by painting much of the population (uncritically) in very broad unflattering strokes, I don't really think the trend of people saying "Well you just can't talk about a group of people as a whole" is going to last. If you're unwilling to discuss groups of people as a single entity, the entire field of social science makes little sense. I think maybe that we've lost sight of the fact that any time we talk about a group of people, we're really implicitly having a statistical discussion.
• mozumder 10y ago
  Social media actually enables these people. A lot of them felt empowered when they found out many other people thought like them.
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• hammock 10y ago
  I was with you when you started to describe a soundproof echo chanber filled with progressives, which blinded them to public opinion. However you sort of pivoted at the end to an alt-right echo chamber. Perhaps it's a bicameral echo chamber. (insert Westworld comparisons here)
• 13years 10y ago
  Agree, very disturbing trend and it only increases the animosity between groups. The trending method of improving diversity and inclusivity is through exclusivity. This will not work. People and groups who don't talk to each other grow further apart and trust each other less.
  • leereeves 10y ago
    > The trending method of improving diversity and inclusivity is through exclusivity. We should remember the source of this article, the BBC, said not so long ago: Whites Need Not Apply. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/bbc-criticised-by-mps-and-job-applicants-over-training-placement/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/bbc-criticised-by... http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/695312/BBC-seeking-researcher-Panorama-only-apply-ethnic-minority http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/695312/BBC-seeking-research...
    • leereeves 10y ago
      I'm amused that several people downvoted that true, relevant, and documented comment. Trying to control the information?
  • nnain 10y ago
    True. People flocked to Twitter to hear general opinion, which the press didn't provide. That is changing. They have also been controlling the trending #hashtags; trying to channel only certain type of discussion.
    • tmaly 10y ago
      What happens if a group like the Koch brothers decides to buy Twitter and ban the other side of the spectrum and control hashtags in a different manner. It's a slippery slope
  • bougiefever 10y ago
    What do you do about Twitter and Facebook becoming the propaganda arm of the alt-right?
• mhurron 10y ago
  People were blindsided because the majority didn't vote for Trump, but the US's backwards system meant that didn't matter. In a democratic system where everyone's vote was equal, we would not have President-Elect Trump.
  • Pungsnigel 10y ago
    How do you know the result of a completely different kind of election? The candidates would obviously campaign differently in the case you are describing.
    • mhurron 10y ago
      Numbers: Trump : 60,834,437 votes Hillary : 61,782,016 votes Popular Vote result ( as in your vote counts the same as everyone elses ) President Hillary. US System ( the weight of your vote depends on what state you live in ) President Trump. If you want to break it down further than that, well there is no reason to analyze anything ever because it's always a completely different situation. People were blindsided because in any measure people consider fair and democratic, Trump would not be president. Trump was president once Ohio, NC and Florida were called for him. The rest of the country didn't matter except for counting exactly how many electoral college votes he was going to get, but we could have stopped counting votes by about 11pm EST on November 8. For the presidential election, it was just a formality after that.
      • nathanasmith 10y ago
        Your argument is completely fallacious. The contest from the beginning was to get the most electoral votes. The candidates campaigned with that in mind. In many one-sided states like California and Utah, voters voted with that in mind, i.e., Republicans stay home in CA and Democrats stay home in UT. If the election had been about the popular vote, the candidates would have used radically different strategies and the voters in heavy red and blue states would have voted. None of this is controversial.
      • Taek 10y ago
        People forget why the electoral college was created. Every state gets 3 votes for free. More votes added based on population. That's by design, because it props up the small states. The Constitution intentionally gave disproportionate power to small states to prevent the large states from being able to ignore them entirely. That was a condition that the small states demanded for joining the union. This election worked exactly as it was intended. The small states preferred Trump, and their constitutionally granted power was sufficient to overule the authority of the larger states.
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• newaccount3574 10y ago
  > If it really is just mass reporting for political speech It's not just for political speech. Multiple asian artists drawing cartoon porn, which was properly marked as sensitive content, got their twitter accounts suspended after some offended people mass-reported them.
• fatbird 10y ago
  These were figures representing groups that shout down diverse opinions and quell the free speech of others with noise and abuse. You're not improving understanding and engagement between communities when you allow bullies to silence the meek.
  • Sacho 10y ago
    > shout down diverse opinions and quell the free speech of others with noise and abuse How does that work? Twitter banned them for spamming?
• throwaway274739 10y ago
  If they are in fact members of the Alt-Right -- which it seems none of them deny -- then I don't see why any further explanation is required. The Alt-Right is an SPLC-designated hate group. They promote vile hatred against People of Color, women, Muslims, LGBTQ2s, immigrants, etc. I find it disturbing that well educated people could possibly believe a privately-owned company has some duty to serve as a platform for that filth.
  • underdown 10y ago
    and why should anyone care what the splc concludes? serious question.
    • throwaway274739 10y ago
      Huh? You're seriously asking why we should care what experts on the far-right have to say about far-right organizations?
      • forgottenpass 10y ago
        The same "experts" that fell for the Clinton campaign's forced meme that pepe posters were all nazis? That SPLC?
• psyc 10y ago
  From what I see in my feed, it seems 100% of "progressives" have doubled down on their hyperbolic, established, in-group rhetoric. I followed everyone that I follow because they are programmers, not because they are "progressives". But from looking at my feed, one would think that I deliberately set out to create a radical SJW echo chamber for myself.
  • lotsoflumens 10y ago
    Exactly the same here. You wrote my thoughts perfectly. It's sad actually.
  • dictum 10y ago
    I looked at a list of OSS project leaders and other programmers recently and was surprised at the popularity of the hammer and sickle symbol in their bios. Upside is that I now know who not to listen to when the next tech drama pops up.
    • grzm 10y ago
      Do you literally mean hammer and sickle? Or is that a literary device?
      • dictum 10y ago
        Literally the unicode character for hammer and sickle (U+262D)
        • grzm 10y ago
          Wow. Do you have references?
          • vorotato 10y ago
            Well mine will now. Thanks for showing this to me.
• kristianc 10y ago
  They have those echo chambers already. Some of them are talking about moving to a platform like Gab. However, most of them realize that the appeal of Twitter is in being able to expose normal people (or 'normies' in their terminology) to far-right ideas. It's delusional to think that these people want to enter into a conversation or a discourse of any kind - they're using Twitter as a platform to draw attention to their ideas. Twitter, as a commercial business - not a public commons - has no obligation to support that.