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you're speaking as someone who takes a wildly extreme position so the mild liberal/left views in The Guardian seem like "wildly extreme" positions to you prob

you're speaking as someone who takes a wildly extreme position so the mild liberal/left views in The Guardian seem like "wildly extreme" positions to you probably you live in a right-wing social media echo chamber

zigzigzag 10y ago
How would we resolve this dispute? I don't think my views are extreme, nor does opinion polling indicate that they are. I regularly read papers across the political spectrum: The Guardian, the Financial Times, the Economist, the Daily Mail, the Express, the Telegraph, and often stories from the New York Times and the Washington Post (I like news). That seems like a pretty broad reach. I don't think it's an echo chamber. I also use Google News a lot. That throws up a pretty random selection of sources on whatever the topics of the day are. The Guardian regularly runs articles by authors like these: https://www.theguardian.com/profile/jessicavalenti https://www.theguardian.com/profile/jessicavalenti https://www.theguardian.com/profile/joris-luyendijk https://www.theguardian.com/profile/joris-luyendijk Example articles: In Brexit Britain, being a foreigner marks me out as evil Why the mediocre male's days may be numbered After Brexit, a game plan for the EU: unleash Project Pain: Nobody wants to be vindictive, but maximum political and economic damage would stop other arsonists. Hey, misogynist killjoys: stop denying that Hillary has made history Why we need to lose biased words like 'mistress' for good and from others there: The far right tell us kindness is weakness. We can’t give in to that: Urging people to be something as squishy as ‘kind’ may seem childish. But compassion is a revolutionary tool that can steer people away from bigotry The US will no longer feel like a haven for Jews under Trump A win for Trump was a win for bigotry. Here’s how we resist him I have no hesitation at all in describing these as extreme views, but these were just a random selection of headlines I pulled from their website in 90 seconds.
- Chris2048 10y ago
  Look at this mild piece of liberalism: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/09/election-analysis-trump-clinton-terrifying-moment-for-america https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/09/electi... "This is a terrifying moment for America. Hold your loved ones close" of course, this is an "Opinion" piece, that's where Guardian airs it's worst bias, The feminism section if full of them.
jazzyk 10y ago
That's why we should avoid labels such as "extremist", "radical", "fringe" - they are deeply subjective. Fun fact: Austria' Freedom Party's (invariably labeled as "fringe") presidential candidate came close to winning the election a few months ago. If you get close to 50% of all votes, you are not exactly fringe, are you?

zigzigzag 10y ago

How would we resolve this dispute? I don't think my views are extreme, nor does opinion polling indicate that they are. I regularly read papers across the political spectrum: The Guardian, the Financial Times, the Economist, the Daily Mail, the Express, the Telegraph, and often stories from the New York Times and the Washington Post (I like news). That seems like a pretty broad reach. I don't think it's an echo chamber. I also use Google News a lot. That throws up a pretty random selection of sources on whatever the topics of the day are. The Guardian regularly runs articles by authors like these: https://www.theguardian.com/profile/jessicavalenti https://www.theguardian.com/profile/jessicavalenti https://www.theguardian.com/profile/joris-luyendijk https://www.theguardian.com/profile/joris-luyendijk Example articles: In Brexit Britain, being a foreigner marks me out as evil Why the mediocre male's days may be numbered After Brexit, a game plan for the EU: unleash Project Pain: Nobody wants to be vindictive, but maximum political and economic damage would stop other arsonists. Hey, misogynist killjoys: stop denying that Hillary has made history Why we need to lose biased words like 'mistress' for good and from others there: The far right tell us kindness is weakness. We can’t give in to that: Urging people to be something as squishy as ‘kind’ may seem childish. But compassion is a revolutionary tool that can steer people away from bigotry The US will no longer feel like a haven for Jews under Trump A win for Trump was a win for bigotry. Here’s how we resist him I have no hesitation at all in describing these as extreme views, but these were just a random selection of headlines I pulled from their website in 90 seconds.

Chris2048 10y ago
Look at this mild piece of liberalism: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/09/election-analysis-trump-clinton-terrifying-moment-for-america https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/09/electi... "This is a terrifying moment for America. Hold your loved ones close" of course, this is an "Opinion" piece, that's where Guardian airs it's worst bias, The feminism section if full of them.

jazzyk 10y ago

That's why we should avoid labels such as "extremist", "radical", "fringe" - they are deeply subjective. Fun fact: Austria' Freedom Party's (invariably labeled as "fringe") presidential candidate came close to winning the election a few months ago. If you get close to 50% of all votes, you are not exactly fringe, are you?