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I told you SSD will be permanently soldered to the PCB, received downvotes in return :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12826005 https://news.ycombinator.

by rasz_pl 10y ago

I told you SSD will be permanently soldered to the PCB, received downvotes in return :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12826005 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12826005 Apple finally decided with this round of macbooks to shift from producing laptops into content consumption appliances like iPhone. Next step of this internal plan involves processors.

audunw 10y ago
".. content consumption appliances like .." That's still quite a hyperbole isn't it? Is 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 for content consumption? Is 3.1/2.1Gbps SSD for content consumption? Edit: Is a super accurate and wide color gamut screen for content consumption? "Next step of this internal plan involves processors." What exactly are you alluding to here? Apple designing its own processor? x86 or ARM? Do you think Apple will go through another architecture switch on macOS? Laptops are going to become even more integrated. That's just physics. Long, wide traces are not good for either power consumption or bandwidth. But how that will manifest in future MacBooks is hard to say. They could still go for off-the-shelf components and packages (probably Intel will start to deliver processors with stacked or silicon interposer bonded RAM). But it would make some sense for them to design their own processors. Though Intel is still really far ahead in semiconductor process and processor architecture. I'm not sure they can come close enough to justify it.
- anonymfus 10y ago
  >Is 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 for content consumption? Considering that using USB3 bandwidth disables WiFi[1], yes. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o
  - pilif 10y ago
    I'm sure this is intentional design and working completely as intended /s Have you considered that there could be a hardware- or software issue causing this that could be fixed later on?
  - audunw 10y ago
    See, why do you have to use the "it's for consumers" argument when it doesn't apply? If it's a laptop which includes features which is WAY beyond the requirements of your average consumer, and with the price to boot, it's not a consumer laptop. Maybe the specs don't quite match certain specific professional users requirements. Maybe certain features are broken. Maybe there are flaws in the product. Those issues can be addressed on their own. You don't have to tie it to some misguided idea that Apple is making it with the intent of content consumption. That people have to attach their critique to some far-fetched speculation about Apples motivations signals that they may not think the critique can stand on its own. Which is a shame, because often it can.
- rasz_pl 10y ago
  Im not alluding anything, Im telling you whats going to happen just like I told you about non removable SSD when nobody publicly knew about it.
intoverflow2 10y ago
> decided with this round of macbooks to shift from producing laptops into content consumption appliances like iPhone I wouldn't go that far, but I would say for a company that likes to shout so loudly about environmental waste they sure like to make disposable unmaintainable devices these days.
- zimpenfish 10y ago
  And will recycle them for you. http://www.apple.com/uk/recycling/ http://www.apple.com/uk/recycling/
  - icebraining 10y ago
    Pretty sure that's mandated by the EU.
sp0rk 10y ago
> I told you SSD will be permanently soldered to the PCB, received downvotes in return Just because your prediction/information turned out to be correct does not mean that your comment was useful at the time. Why would anybody trust information left in a random HN comment by somebody that isn't even going to attempt to explain their source or reasoning?
- rasz_pl 10y ago
  Im not as brave as my Chinese friends.

by rasz_pl 10y ago

audunw 10y ago

".. content consumption appliances like .." That's still quite a hyperbole isn't it? Is 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 for content consumption? Is 3.1/2.1Gbps SSD for content consumption? Edit: Is a super accurate and wide color gamut screen for content consumption? "Next step of this internal plan involves processors." What exactly are you alluding to here? Apple designing its own processor? x86 or ARM? Do you think Apple will go through another architecture switch on macOS? Laptops are going to become even more integrated. That's just physics. Long, wide traces are not good for either power consumption or bandwidth. But how that will manifest in future MacBooks is hard to say. They could still go for off-the-shelf components and packages (probably Intel will start to deliver processors with stacked or silicon interposer bonded RAM). But it would make some sense for them to design their own processors. Though Intel is still really far ahead in semiconductor process and processor architecture. I'm not sure they can come close enough to justify it.

anonymfus 10y ago
>Is 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 for content consumption? Considering that using USB3 bandwidth disables WiFi[1], yes. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o
- pilif 10y ago
  I'm sure this is intentional design and working completely as intended /s Have you considered that there could be a hardware- or software issue causing this that could be fixed later on?
- audunw 10y ago
  See, why do you have to use the "it's for consumers" argument when it doesn't apply? If it's a laptop which includes features which is WAY beyond the requirements of your average consumer, and with the price to boot, it's not a consumer laptop. Maybe the specs don't quite match certain specific professional users requirements. Maybe certain features are broken. Maybe there are flaws in the product. Those issues can be addressed on their own. You don't have to tie it to some misguided idea that Apple is making it with the intent of content consumption. That people have to attach their critique to some far-fetched speculation about Apples motivations signals that they may not think the critique can stand on its own. Which is a shame, because often it can.
rasz_pl 10y ago
Im not alluding anything, Im telling you whats going to happen just like I told you about non removable SSD when nobody publicly knew about it.

intoverflow2 10y ago

> decided with this round of macbooks to shift from producing laptops into content consumption appliances like iPhone I wouldn't go that far, but I would say for a company that likes to shout so loudly about environmental waste they sure like to make disposable unmaintainable devices these days.

zimpenfish 10y ago
And will recycle them for you. http://www.apple.com/uk/recycling/ http://www.apple.com/uk/recycling/
- icebraining 10y ago
  Pretty sure that's mandated by the EU.

sp0rk 10y ago

> I told you SSD will be permanently soldered to the PCB, received downvotes in return Just because your prediction/information turned out to be correct does not mean that your comment was useful at the time. Why would anybody trust information left in a random HN comment by somebody that isn't even going to attempt to explain their source or reasoning?

rasz_pl 10y ago
Im not as brave as my Chinese friends.