>I don't understand the stances these fringe groups take Suppose for a minute the leaders of these groups are motivated by personal power/glory rather than rel

>I don't understand the stances these fringe groups take Suppose for a minute the leaders of these groups are motivated by personal power/glory rather than religious purity. By stirring up this sort of trouble you get exposure, name on TV - fame and glory. Then if you stir up enough trouble there starts to be a backlash. People start to associate your ethnic group with trouble and react to that. So you can start saying to impressionable young idiots - see you can never integrate into the society of 'wherever', they hate you. We must fight them, come and join my group. The bigger your group the more trouble you can cause, the more backlash, the more downtrodden followers. Works for gangs in LA and kids in Northern Ireland today, worked for a certain mustachioed politician in Europe 80years ago. And was probably working for a bunch of idol worshipers in Ur 6000years ago.