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>So your argument is based on the trope that gun owners in America are overweight? Yeah, that must be what my argument is. Don't bother reading any of the rest

>So your argument is based on the trope that gun owners in America are overweight? Yeah, that must be what my argument is. Don't bother reading any of the rest of my comment; you might become exposed to nuance. As long as you're not exposed to nuance, you will be able to go toe-to-toe with the 101st Airborne. There won't be massive casualties. You are exceptional.

zepto 10y ago
I don't see any nuance. I don't claim to be able to go toe to toe with the 101st airborne. And I certainly don't claim that overthrowing an oppressive government wouldn't involve massive casualties. Are you saying anything that isn't straw men? And considering your question of coming from the same culture - you are assuming that the US military would be willing to go to war against their own people - a very different proposition to the wars they have been fighting. Even the war in Iraq is considered not to be what they signed up for by many service-people.
- justratsinacoat 10y ago
  >I don't see any nuance Yeah, I can tell! >Are you saying anything that isn't straw men? Hey man, I'm just replying to things. >And considering your question of coming from the same culture - you are assuming that the US military would be willing to go to war against their own people - a very different proposition to the wars they have been fighting Hey man, I'm just replying to things! I am not assuming that the US military would be willing to go to war against their own people -- I'm just responding to that already established hypothetical. I infer that you want to yell at people who claim that, by your alleging that I called Yank citizenry fat. The clownfight you seek is upthread, where people established that we were talking about the US military going to war against their own people. I didn't establish anything.
  - zepto 10y ago
    You infer that I want to yell at people... clownfight... Erm, looks like you are the one who wants to start a fight rather than have a discussion.
    - justratsinacoat 10y ago
      So you claim, but anyone who opens up the "discussion" with "So, [misrepresentation of parent opinion], huh?"[0] is clearly not seeking a discussion and is instead seeking a clownfight. You had every opportunity to prove me wrong. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958354 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958354
      - zepto 10y ago
        I have proved you wrong. I didn't misrepresent you. I quoted you, picking out the line which is most emblematic of your prejudice.
        justratsinacoat 10y ago
        You strawmanned me, and then accused me of strawmanning. Enjoy your victory!
        zepto 10y ago
        I don't think you know what a straw man is.
        justratsinacoat 10y ago
        It's an intentional misrepresentation of an opinion, such as "So, [misrepresentation of parent opinion], huh?"
        zepto 10y ago
        I didn't misrepresent you - the text I quoted was part of your argument. If you didn't mean it, why did you say it? If you did mean it, then why not simply stand behind it?

zepto 10y ago

I don't see any nuance. I don't claim to be able to go toe to toe with the 101st airborne. And I certainly don't claim that overthrowing an oppressive government wouldn't involve massive casualties. Are you saying anything that isn't straw men? And considering your question of coming from the same culture - you are assuming that the US military would be willing to go to war against their own people - a very different proposition to the wars they have been fighting. Even the war in Iraq is considered not to be what they signed up for by many service-people.

justratsinacoat 10y ago
>I don't see any nuance Yeah, I can tell! >Are you saying anything that isn't straw men? Hey man, I'm just replying to things. >And considering your question of coming from the same culture - you are assuming that the US military would be willing to go to war against their own people - a very different proposition to the wars they have been fighting Hey man, I'm just replying to things! I am not assuming that the US military would be willing to go to war against their own people -- I'm just responding to that already established hypothetical. I infer that you want to yell at people who claim that, by your alleging that I called Yank citizenry fat. The clownfight you seek is upthread, where people established that we were talking about the US military going to war against their own people. I didn't establish anything.
- zepto 10y ago
  You infer that I want to yell at people... clownfight... Erm, looks like you are the one who wants to start a fight rather than have a discussion.
  - justratsinacoat 10y ago
    So you claim, but anyone who opens up the "discussion" with "So, [misrepresentation of parent opinion], huh?"[0] is clearly not seeking a discussion and is instead seeking a clownfight. You had every opportunity to prove me wrong. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958354 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958354
    - zepto 10y ago
      I have proved you wrong. I didn't misrepresent you. I quoted you, picking out the line which is most emblematic of your prejudice.
      - justratsinacoat 10y ago
        You strawmanned me, and then accused me of strawmanning. Enjoy your victory!
        zepto 10y ago
        I don't think you know what a straw man is.
        justratsinacoat 10y ago
        It's an intentional misrepresentation of an opinion, such as "So, [misrepresentation of parent opinion], huh?"
        zepto 10y ago
        I didn't misrepresent you - the text I quoted was part of your argument. If you didn't mean it, why did you say it? If you did mean it, then why not simply stand behind it?