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I just picked up an Acer Chromebook 11 for $60, have been using crouton with no problems (besides hardware limitations). Great little guy for on the go programm

I just picked up an Acer Chromebook 11 for $60, have been using crouton with no problems (besides hardware limitations). Great little guy for on the go programming. Like someone else said, I just hit ctrl-d and I'm logged in within 30 seconds. IMO developer mode seems like a nice way to keep standard users fenced in.

kuschku 10y ago
> IMO developer mode seems like a nice way to keep standard users fenced in. The whole reason why the BBC funded the original micro was to end the distinction between developer and standard user – everyone should at least understand it.
- digi_owl 10y ago
  A notion that has gone 180 since then. Even the big FOSS projects seems to operate under the mentality that there are two groups, the developers (aka the people involved with the project) and the users (aka sheeple).
- mrlatinos 10y ago
  Everyone should understand it but most of the time that isn't the case. And I would argue that most "advanced" users (especially on Windows) are just following instructions from online posts and really have no idea what they're doing. If something doesn't work as expected, they either ask for next steps online with extreme vagueness, or take it upon themselves to start messing with system files and settings, digging their hole even deeper. Giving users full control like that will only result in a greater need for customer support. We've all seen the stupidity of some of these "tales from tech support" customers. While I agree with you that everyone should at least understand the computer and OS that they're using, I also understand Google's move in creating a separation of users, especially during Chrome OS's infancy.
vollmond 10y ago
The problem isn't that I will wipe my machine, but that, say, my toddler will (she has twice), or a well-meaning spouse who sees a problem with a messages that says how to fix it. Yes, I can keep the machine put away out of reach, etc, but that's not necessary with any other laptop I have. The user login on my Windows 10 machine is enough to prevent my 3-year-old from button-mashing her way to a wiped drive. Not so on a chromebook.
- chamakits 10y ago
  Yup. I had my mom over and while I was sleeping she was looking for a computer to use. She recognized the chrome book, because they have one at home. She opened it, saw a screen saying "press spacebar" and she complied. Was I angry at her? Yes. Very. But when I realized that even I could have easily made that mistake I stopped using the chrome book with crouton. Too high risk.
- mrlatinos 10y ago
  Ah, gotcha. Don't know much about those troubles as a single student!

kuschku 10y ago

> IMO developer mode seems like a nice way to keep standard users fenced in. The whole reason why the BBC funded the original micro was to end the distinction between developer and standard user – everyone should at least understand it.

digi_owl 10y ago
A notion that has gone 180 since then. Even the big FOSS projects seems to operate under the mentality that there are two groups, the developers (aka the people involved with the project) and the users (aka sheeple).
mrlatinos 10y ago
Everyone should understand it but most of the time that isn't the case. And I would argue that most "advanced" users (especially on Windows) are just following instructions from online posts and really have no idea what they're doing. If something doesn't work as expected, they either ask for next steps online with extreme vagueness, or take it upon themselves to start messing with system files and settings, digging their hole even deeper. Giving users full control like that will only result in a greater need for customer support. We've all seen the stupidity of some of these "tales from tech support" customers. While I agree with you that everyone should at least understand the computer and OS that they're using, I also understand Google's move in creating a separation of users, especially during Chrome OS's infancy.

vollmond 10y ago

The problem isn't that I will wipe my machine, but that, say, my toddler will (she has twice), or a well-meaning spouse who sees a problem with a messages that says how to fix it. Yes, I can keep the machine put away out of reach, etc, but that's not necessary with any other laptop I have. The user login on my Windows 10 machine is enough to prevent my 3-year-old from button-mashing her way to a wiped drive. Not so on a chromebook.

chamakits 10y ago
Yup. I had my mom over and while I was sleeping she was looking for a computer to use. She recognized the chrome book, because they have one at home. She opened it, saw a screen saying "press spacebar" and she complied. Was I angry at her? Yes. Very. But when I realized that even I could have easily made that mistake I stopped using the chrome book with crouton. Too high risk.
mrlatinos 10y ago
Ah, gotcha. Don't know much about those troubles as a single student!