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Except that you fell for the GP incompetence in geography. The fact is that one should read everything very very carefully everywhere and try to just access ba

Except that you fell for the GP incompetence in geography. The fact is that one should read everything very very carefully everywhere and try to just access bare facts and abandon everything that is purely a (journalist) opinion. It is very important to know bias of the source and understand that information is used to distort the understanding of the reality. There are quite many people who think that they have escaped the misinformation field except they have been fallen for other carefully constructed reality.

rdtsc 10y ago
> Except that you fell for the GP incompetence in geography. Sorry, I didn't follow, what do you mean by "incompetence in geography?"
- eveningcoffee 10y ago
  Here copy from my direct answer: Large parts of former Soviet occupied and Warsaw Pact countries are marked either as not assessed or free. Except Russia along with Belarus (not free) and Ukraine (partially free, well, except Crimea, that is at the moment Russian annexed, but probably marked after Ukraine, or vice versa). Sorry about the confusion.
  - rdtsc 10y ago
    Ok valid point. I didn't verify that because it wasn't a central part of the argument. However note, you also missed other parts like Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaidjan? Was that intentional? I don't know, perhaps saying "a majority of post-Soviet states have been labeled by Freedom House as having press freedom issues" is not that controversial? The original discussion diverged into something else that basically say even "free" press doesn't mean what people think it means. And I brought CNN as an example?
    - eveningcoffee 10y ago
      It was not intentional, I just forgot those, more or less, I could not comment if these are correctly classified or not, but these countries are quite authoritarian, so possibly they are. I believe that it is important to understand that in most cases news =/ objective truth. There is always some bias and it is very important to know this bias for every source.

rdtsc 10y ago

> Except that you fell for the GP incompetence in geography. Sorry, I didn't follow, what do you mean by "incompetence in geography?"

eveningcoffee 10y ago
Here copy from my direct answer: Large parts of former Soviet occupied and Warsaw Pact countries are marked either as not assessed or free. Except Russia along with Belarus (not free) and Ukraine (partially free, well, except Crimea, that is at the moment Russian annexed, but probably marked after Ukraine, or vice versa). Sorry about the confusion.
- rdtsc 10y ago
  Ok valid point. I didn't verify that because it wasn't a central part of the argument. However note, you also missed other parts like Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaidjan? Was that intentional? I don't know, perhaps saying "a majority of post-Soviet states have been labeled by Freedom House as having press freedom issues" is not that controversial? The original discussion diverged into something else that basically say even "free" press doesn't mean what people think it means. And I brought CNN as an example?
  - eveningcoffee 10y ago
    It was not intentional, I just forgot those, more or less, I could not comment if these are correctly classified or not, but these countries are quite authoritarian, so possibly they are. I believe that it is important to understand that in most cases news =/ objective truth. There is always some bias and it is very important to know this bias for every source.