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I used video calling (almost) everyday for the past few years. I find FaceTime to be best at video calling even in the face of not the best connectivity. Unfort

I used video calling (almost) everyday for the past few years. I find FaceTime to be best at video calling even in the face of not the best connectivity. Unfortunately it is limited to Apple devices only. Excited to try WhatsApp for this.

mathw 10y ago
I know why FaceTime wasn't opened like they promised it would be, but I do think it's a big shame. It's 2016 - we should have pervasive standard video calling by now, surely?
- lorenzhs 10y ago
  For those unfamiliar with the reasons for not making FaceTime an open standard: Apple was sued for patent infringement by VirnetX, a patent troll: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/report-after-patent-loss-apple-tweaks-facetime-and-logs-500000-complaints/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/report-after-pate... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12212990 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12212990
  - dingaling 10y ago
    VirtNetX market cap Nov 2016: $185 million https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VHC?p=VHC https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VHC?p=VHC Fines due to VirNetX from Apple following iMessage / VPN On Demand / FaceTime patent case: $625 million Apple current liquidity: c . $180 billion I see a straightforward solution. Stock buy-out, reclaim fines, shut-down. Apple would actually save money plus own all the patents.
Gustomaximus 10y ago
Have you tried hangouts? I find that quite good.