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Your comment history is filled with nonsense such as "germany doesn't have free speech", "CO2 is not a real pollutant", "coal is safe", "climate science isn't r

Your comment history is filled with nonsense such as "germany doesn't have free speech", "CO2 is not a real pollutant", "coal is safe", "climate science isn't real" and my favourite: There's a conspiracy on HN to downvote you specifically. I'm not sure how qualified you are in journalistic integrity. You might well be the most qualified on this site to talk about fake news sites though. Seriously.

mr_spothawk 10y ago
For the record, I read through his comments to see what you were talking about. You have misquoted him: "CO2 is not a real pollutant" --> "[...]It's high time to start fighting with real pollutants instead CO2" here's the one about Coal safety... i guess? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12927586 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12927586 but whatever it is, you're not arguing your point. you're attacking the person who's trying to share their views with you. please take your responsibility to maintain an open dialogue seriously.
- scrollaway 10y ago
  I did not misquote anything: "The only thing which can't be controlled is CO2. But this is not a pollutant." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12927586 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12927586 "Maybe this will help to shift the focus to real pollutants, which actually harm human health, instead of CO2." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12915575 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12915575 And the sentence you yourself quoted is quite obviously missing an "of", given the poster's consistent view points on the issue. FWIW, I have had (and still have) an open dialogue with any trump supporter that wants it; one of them I even met up with directly from here. Reasonable discussion is fun and productive. But for similar reasons as why you don't negotiate with terrorists, I'm not going to bother arguing climate science with someone who believes it was designed as a conspiracy to make you vote Hillary or something. Edit: Besides, inopinatus already expressed what my thoughts were on the "assassination" issue.
  - mr_spothawk 10y ago
    from my perspective arguing with climate-science terrorists looks pretty similar to shouting down climate-scientist terrorists with ad hominem.
piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
> germany doesn't have free speech Those who replied in that thread provided plenty enough examples confirming that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12953645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12953645 It's a shame that you didn't acquaint with them before calling my words 'nonsense'. > CO2 is not a real pollutant From Wikipedia: "CO2 is an asphyxiant gas and not classified as toxic or harmful in accordance with Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labelling of Chemicals standards." > coal is safe If burned in modern plants, it is safe. https://friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/FoS_BurningQuestions_Health_Coal_Wildfires_Jan2015.pdf https://friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/FoS_BurningQue... > climate science isn't real Now it is more a religion than science. Just look on your own emotional reaction to someone who questioned it: you have compared 'an infidel' to a terrorist... > and my favourite: There's a conspiracy on HN to downvote you specifically. I most cases I was complaining about submissions of other users which I noticed were disappearing from lists, despite being highly upvoted. So where did you get this 'downvote you specifically' from?
Grue3 10y ago
>"germany doesn't have free speech", "CO2 is not a real pollutant" How can you possibly argue against these two?

mr_spothawk 10y ago

For the record, I read through his comments to see what you were talking about. You have misquoted him: "CO2 is not a real pollutant" --> "[...]It's high time to start fighting with real pollutants instead CO2" here's the one about Coal safety... i guess? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12927586 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12927586 but whatever it is, you're not arguing your point. you're attacking the person who's trying to share their views with you. please take your responsibility to maintain an open dialogue seriously.

scrollaway 10y ago
I did not misquote anything: "The only thing which can't be controlled is CO2. But this is not a pollutant." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12927586 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12927586 "Maybe this will help to shift the focus to real pollutants, which actually harm human health, instead of CO2." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12915575 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12915575 And the sentence you yourself quoted is quite obviously missing an "of", given the poster's consistent view points on the issue. FWIW, I have had (and still have) an open dialogue with any trump supporter that wants it; one of them I even met up with directly from here. Reasonable discussion is fun and productive. But for similar reasons as why you don't negotiate with terrorists, I'm not going to bother arguing climate science with someone who believes it was designed as a conspiracy to make you vote Hillary or something. Edit: Besides, inopinatus already expressed what my thoughts were on the "assassination" issue.
- mr_spothawk 10y ago
  from my perspective arguing with climate-science terrorists looks pretty similar to shouting down climate-scientist terrorists with ad hominem.

piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago

> germany doesn't have free speech Those who replied in that thread provided plenty enough examples confirming that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12953645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12953645 It's a shame that you didn't acquaint with them before calling my words 'nonsense'. > CO2 is not a real pollutant From Wikipedia: "CO2 is an asphyxiant gas and not classified as toxic or harmful in accordance with Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labelling of Chemicals standards." > coal is safe If burned in modern plants, it is safe. https://friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/FoS_BurningQuestions_Health_Coal_Wildfires_Jan2015.pdf https://friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/FoS_BurningQue... > climate science isn't real Now it is more a religion than science. Just look on your own emotional reaction to someone who questioned it: you have compared 'an infidel' to a terrorist... > and my favourite: There's a conspiracy on HN to downvote you specifically. I most cases I was complaining about submissions of other users which I noticed were disappearing from lists, despite being highly upvoted. So where did you get this 'downvote you specifically' from?

Grue3 10y ago

>"germany doesn't have free speech", "CO2 is not a real pollutant" How can you possibly argue against these two?