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Are they going to stop ads on the New York Times, The Washington Post, and the other mainstream media sites that suppressed bad news about Clinton, while pushin

Are they going to stop ads on the New York Times, The Washington Post, and the other mainstream media sites that suppressed bad news about Clinton, while pushing fake and manipulated news about Trump?

sigmar 10y ago
>while pushing fake and manipulated news about Trump? Link please.
- joshmn 10y ago
  Inserts infowars, anonnews, yournewswire references. Because remember folks, not even your President-elect factchecks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9IEIP3k_8c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9IEIP3k_8c
- sparkzilla 10y ago
  Since you asked..The New York Times completely made up the story about Trump mocking a disabled reporter, to distract from their reporting of his comments about seeing Muslims celebrating in New Jersey [1]. Freeze framed his arms and completely made up the story to match. That's just one of many, many deliberate misdirections and bogus factchecking fails by the MSM in this election. The New York Times even apologised to its readers for its biased coverage. [1]https://medium.com/@sparkzilla/trump-and-the-battle-of-the-truths-a13450ecbbc8#.kc7t2kiby https://medium.com/@sparkzilla/trump-and-the-battle-of-the-t...
  - fullshark 10y ago
    There's video of him mocking said reporter. That's really what you went with?
    - sparkzilla 10y ago
      Trump mocked the reporter, but he didn't mock him for his disability. Trump uses the same mocking motions all the time [1], but The New York Times, decided to freeze the image and write a story to say he was specifically mocking the reporter's disability. Big difference. And it worked, because so many people believe it. But it was a lie plain and simple. That's why so few people trust the media any more. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUizn19p7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUizn19p7o
      - AnimalMuppet 10y ago
        Memo to somebody: A refutation talks louder than a downvote. See GabrielF00's reply to sparkzilla's earlier comment to see how it's done.
        sparkzilla 10y ago
        Y'know what works better than a downvote, or a "refutation"? Actual video that shows that Trump has mocked multiple non-disabled people in exactly the same way. Which means that he did not specifically mock the reporter's disability, and that the NYT story and freeze frame was manufactured to lead gullible and easily-led people to believe that Trump is the kind of guy who mocks the disabled. What a monster! So watch the video and decide what you are going to believe -- your own lying eyes, or the narrative.
        narrowrail 10y ago
        This is the comment I had to read in order to finally understand the point you were making. I saw the video of the alleged mocking you are now calling into question, and the one about seeing people in NJ celebrating months ago. For me, hearing him say stop-and-frisk was a good way to police was enough to end my interest.
        mikestew 10y ago
        Some things aren't worth the electrons it takes to refute. As it is, even a downvote generates a request/response, and even that is a questionable use of such minimal resources.
        pessimizer 10y ago
        "Oh, come on" will never be a refutation of anything. That phrase, along with "oh, please," "you can't really expect me to believe," and "you can't really believe" doesn't have any place in a reasonable discussion.
  - sigmar 10y ago
    >The New York Times completely made up the story about Trump mocking a disabled reporter There is video (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34930042 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34930042) and it was very widely reported by both conservative and liberal media.
  - GabrielF00 10y ago
    Oh come on. I just watched the video again. He says "now the poor guy, you've got to see this guy" and then he starts flailing his hands around and imitating the reporter in a strange voice: "'uh uh uh I don't know what I said ah ah ah I don't remember' he goes like 'I don't remember maybe that's what I said'". I've watched plenty of Trump speeches and have not seen him use hand gestures like that, and I wouldn't associate that gesture with not remembering or hedging on something. I would definitely associate it with a disability like cerebral palsy. It's definitely not just manufactured by taking a freeze frame. Look at the video. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/02/donald-trumps-revisionist-history-of-mocking-a-disabled-reporter/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/...
    - sparkzilla 10y ago
      It is completely manufactured. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUizn19p7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUizn19p7o
      - pessimizer 10y ago
        Unless Ted Cruz is disabled in the same way as the reporter, this video makes a pretty good case for this just being a general Trump depiction of people who can't answer a question.
      - twr 10y ago
        In the first video, Mr. Trump tucks in his chin, draws back his eyelids, and adopts a "retarded" tone of voice. In the second video, Mr. Trump just moves his hands around a bit, as you say. I had not seen the first video until now, and I am unfamiliar with the disabled reporter, but I concluded right away that he was embodying someone with a physical/mental disability -- something like Parkinson's or cerebral palsy. If he was not, then Donald Trump has only himself to blame, for behaving in a misconstruable manner.
        sparkzilla 10y ago
        Except that the disabled reporter doesn't behave like Trump's mockery at all. He has no outward shaking or hand waving at all. [1] So the situation is actually worse: The Times not only falsely painted Trump as someone who mocks the disabled, they used a reporter's disability as a prop to attack Trump, AND they took advantage of a stereotype of disabled people to mislead their own readers. You can either accept the evidence that they lied and manipulated the reader, or continue to follow the narrative. Choose wisely. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUuXQ443fA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUuXQ443fA
- piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
  > Link please. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-...
  - dandare 10y ago
    Failed election predictions are not fake and manipulated news about Trump.
gdulli 10y ago
Unless they specify otherwise I assume this policy will only apply to actual phenomena.
- sverige 10y ago
  I guess you missed all the emails from WikiLeaks between the Clinton campaign / DNC and various news outlets like CNN, Politico, et al.
pessimizer 10y ago
Fake news is different than shit news. The only fake news from those two outlets is the news supplied by "anonymous administration officials." The hyperbole, loaded language, out of context quotes, and "objective" policy critiques by random think tank shills (usually from the Peterson Foundation) are not fake, they're shit.

sigmar 10y ago

>while pushing fake and manipulated news about Trump? Link please.

joshmn 10y ago
Inserts infowars, anonnews, yournewswire references. Because remember folks, not even your President-elect factchecks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9IEIP3k_8c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9IEIP3k_8c
sparkzilla 10y ago
Since you asked..The New York Times completely made up the story about Trump mocking a disabled reporter, to distract from their reporting of his comments about seeing Muslims celebrating in New Jersey [1]. Freeze framed his arms and completely made up the story to match. That's just one of many, many deliberate misdirections and bogus factchecking fails by the MSM in this election. The New York Times even apologised to its readers for its biased coverage. [1]https://medium.com/@sparkzilla/trump-and-the-battle-of-the-truths-a13450ecbbc8#.kc7t2kiby https://medium.com/@sparkzilla/trump-and-the-battle-of-the-t...
- fullshark 10y ago
  There's video of him mocking said reporter. That's really what you went with?
  - sparkzilla 10y ago
    Trump mocked the reporter, but he didn't mock him for his disability. Trump uses the same mocking motions all the time [1], but The New York Times, decided to freeze the image and write a story to say he was specifically mocking the reporter's disability. Big difference. And it worked, because so many people believe it. But it was a lie plain and simple. That's why so few people trust the media any more. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUizn19p7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUizn19p7o
    - AnimalMuppet 10y ago
      Memo to somebody: A refutation talks louder than a downvote. See GabrielF00's reply to sparkzilla's earlier comment to see how it's done.
      - sparkzilla 10y ago
        Y'know what works better than a downvote, or a "refutation"? Actual video that shows that Trump has mocked multiple non-disabled people in exactly the same way. Which means that he did not specifically mock the reporter's disability, and that the NYT story and freeze frame was manufactured to lead gullible and easily-led people to believe that Trump is the kind of guy who mocks the disabled. What a monster! So watch the video and decide what you are going to believe -- your own lying eyes, or the narrative.
        narrowrail 10y ago
        This is the comment I had to read in order to finally understand the point you were making. I saw the video of the alleged mocking you are now calling into question, and the one about seeing people in NJ celebrating months ago. For me, hearing him say stop-and-frisk was a good way to police was enough to end my interest.
      - mikestew 10y ago
        Some things aren't worth the electrons it takes to refute. As it is, even a downvote generates a request/response, and even that is a questionable use of such minimal resources.
      - pessimizer 10y ago
        "Oh, come on" will never be a refutation of anything. That phrase, along with "oh, please," "you can't really expect me to believe," and "you can't really believe" doesn't have any place in a reasonable discussion.
- sigmar 10y ago
  >The New York Times completely made up the story about Trump mocking a disabled reporter There is video (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34930042 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34930042) and it was very widely reported by both conservative and liberal media.
- GabrielF00 10y ago
  Oh come on. I just watched the video again. He says "now the poor guy, you've got to see this guy" and then he starts flailing his hands around and imitating the reporter in a strange voice: "'uh uh uh I don't know what I said ah ah ah I don't remember' he goes like 'I don't remember maybe that's what I said'". I've watched plenty of Trump speeches and have not seen him use hand gestures like that, and I wouldn't associate that gesture with not remembering or hedging on something. I would definitely associate it with a disability like cerebral palsy. It's definitely not just manufactured by taking a freeze frame. Look at the video. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/02/donald-trumps-revisionist-history-of-mocking-a-disabled-reporter/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/...
  - sparkzilla 10y ago
    It is completely manufactured. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUizn19p7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUizn19p7o
    - pessimizer 10y ago
      Unless Ted Cruz is disabled in the same way as the reporter, this video makes a pretty good case for this just being a general Trump depiction of people who can't answer a question.
    - twr 10y ago
      In the first video, Mr. Trump tucks in his chin, draws back his eyelids, and adopts a "retarded" tone of voice. In the second video, Mr. Trump just moves his hands around a bit, as you say. I had not seen the first video until now, and I am unfamiliar with the disabled reporter, but I concluded right away that he was embodying someone with a physical/mental disability -- something like Parkinson's or cerebral palsy. If he was not, then Donald Trump has only himself to blame, for behaving in a misconstruable manner.
      - sparkzilla 10y ago
        Except that the disabled reporter doesn't behave like Trump's mockery at all. He has no outward shaking or hand waving at all. [1] So the situation is actually worse: The Times not only falsely painted Trump as someone who mocks the disabled, they used a reporter's disability as a prop to attack Trump, AND they took advantage of a stereotype of disabled people to mislead their own readers. You can either accept the evidence that they lied and manipulated the reader, or continue to follow the narrative. Choose wisely. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUuXQ443fA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUuXQ443fA
piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
> Link please. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-...
- dandare 10y ago
  Failed election predictions are not fake and manipulated news about Trump.

gdulli 10y ago

Unless they specify otherwise I assume this policy will only apply to actual phenomena.

sverige 10y ago
I guess you missed all the emails from WikiLeaks between the Clinton campaign / DNC and various news outlets like CNN, Politico, et al.

pessimizer 10y ago

Fake news is different than shit news. The only fake news from those two outlets is the news supplied by "anonymous administration officials." The hyperbole, loaded language, out of context quotes, and "objective" policy critiques by random think tank shills (usually from the Peterson Foundation) are not fake, they're shit.