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You mean, sometimes delivery vehicles and service vehicles illegally choose to stop and block traffic.

stanleydrew 10y ago
Sure, and sometimes I illegally jaywalk. These are common occurrences that, I believe, are generally accepted with grace and understanding by the rest of us and keep our society running smoothly.
- voxic11 10y ago
  But it's undemocratic. A small number of people are determining how best to keep society running smoothly. Shouldn't they follow the democratically decided rules?
- jdavis703 10y ago
  But when you jaywalk you make sure the road is clear, no? How can the delivery driver ensure no one else uses the bike lane while they make their drop off?
- gohrt 10y ago
  "Jaywalking" law, including its slur of a name ("jay" = "crazy", for the crime of walking in your neighborhood), was installed by the automobile lobby to give automobile users priority of the majority of society, to increase automobile sellers' profits..
  - jrockway 10y ago
    > to increase automobile sellers' profits How's that working out for them.
    - TheCoelacanth 10y ago
      Well, they managed to entrench themselves in society so thoroughly that the government bailed them out when they collapsed due to their own incompetence, so pretty well.
- TulliusCicero 10y ago
  Jaywalking pretty much only puts yourself at risk. Blocking traffic puts others (usually many others) at risk. That's a pretty huge difference that you can't just paper over.
ams6110 10y ago
What are they supposed to do to make a delivery when there is no off-street parking at that address? Fling it out of the vehicle as they drive by?
- apathy 10y ago
  Actually I'm pretty sure DHL (Destroy, Hide & Lose) has a patent on that, so, not without paying royalties.
- alwaysdoit 10y ago
  There are yellow loading and unloading zones throughout the city designated for that purpose.
- TulliusCicero 10y ago
  If that's a problem the city has to address it somehow. Saying, "well in order to do our business we have to randomly put others into physical danger" is not acceptable.

Sure, and sometimes I illegally jaywalk. These are common occurrences that, I believe, are generally accepted with grace and understanding by the rest of us and keep our society running smoothly.

voxic11 10y ago
But it's undemocratic. A small number of people are determining how best to keep society running smoothly. Shouldn't they follow the democratically decided rules?
jdavis703 10y ago
But when you jaywalk you make sure the road is clear, no? How can the delivery driver ensure no one else uses the bike lane while they make their drop off?
gohrt 10y ago
"Jaywalking" law, including its slur of a name ("jay" = "crazy", for the crime of walking in your neighborhood), was installed by the automobile lobby to give automobile users priority of the majority of society, to increase automobile sellers' profits..
- jrockway 10y ago
  > to increase automobile sellers' profits How's that working out for them.
  - TheCoelacanth 10y ago
    Well, they managed to entrench themselves in society so thoroughly that the government bailed them out when they collapsed due to their own incompetence, so pretty well.
TulliusCicero 10y ago
Jaywalking pretty much only puts yourself at risk. Blocking traffic puts others (usually many others) at risk. That's a pretty huge difference that you can't just paper over.

ams6110 10y ago

What are they supposed to do to make a delivery when there is no off-street parking at that address? Fling it out of the vehicle as they drive by?

apathy 10y ago
Actually I'm pretty sure DHL (Destroy, Hide & Lose) has a patent on that, so, not without paying royalties.
alwaysdoit 10y ago
There are yellow loading and unloading zones throughout the city designated for that purpose.
TulliusCicero 10y ago
If that's a problem the city has to address it somehow. Saying, "well in order to do our business we have to randomly put others into physical danger" is not acceptable.