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In other words people voted for Trump because he's an asshole that resonated with themselves being assholes. It's so much less worrisome on the conscience when

In other words people voted for Trump because he's an asshole that resonated with themselves being assholes. It's so much less worrisome on the conscience when your President is also an amoral, racist, misogynistic liar.

lightbyte 10y ago
Seriously, these excuses the right have been using for why he won are just ridiculous. "How dare you call me a bigot, I'll prove you wrong by voting for a bigot! Now look what you did!"
- rhapsodic 10y ago
  Why would the right need to offer "excuses" for Trump's victory? And you seem to think that if some smug leftist calls someone a bigot, it's incumbent upon them to "prove" to the smug leftist that they're not. That's some rather odd logic.
- devsquid 10y ago
  Yea I always thought that was ironic. Because "right-wing" people keeps pointing out times where individuals get "triggered" by someone saying something. IE a person's feelings got hurt when someone made fun of them for something important to them. If someone DARES point out that that comment was bigoted the "right-winged" person gets soooo triggered. I've watched whole you-tube videos of a guy being made someone called him racist after he said a racist thing... The right is a very angry place right now.
imaginenore 10y ago
What's your evidence of him being a racist? I feel like this exact attitude of shouting "racist!" whenever something doesn't go your way is what drove white men and women away from the left. I've been left-leaning my whole life, and the last few years have been disappointing, I no longer associate myself with the left, at least the American flavor of it.
- devsquid 10y ago
  -_- Donald Trump called Mexicans rapists. The KKK endorses him, the American Nazi Party is stoked on him. Steven Bannon is going to be his "Strategist". He's on tape talking about molesting women. Many women have come forward and accused him of trying to or having molested them. Have you ever talked to his supporters about race?
  - imaginenore 10y ago
    "Mexican" is not a race. He didn't call all Mexicans rapists. He doesn't control the KKK, nor the Nazi Party. He is not on tape talking about molesting women, I've listened to the recording, and it's about grabbing the women who let him, which is consensual by definition. And yes, women have accused him, but women also accused Duke lacrosse team. Famous people often get accused with zero evidence. Notice that NONE of the women who accused him went to the police and filed the charges. So every single thing you wrote, besides Bannon, is either a lie or is out of his control. I don't know much about Bannon to judge either way, so won't comment on it. Have you ever talked to the left supporters yourself? They are the most racist group I've ever met. Youtube is full of SJWs blaming white people for all the problems, only because they are white. The are now protesting and writing things like "Kill all the whites" on the walls. That's exactly what made me distance myself from the left. And just to clarify, I don't support Trump, I don't like him, but for much different reasons than your made up ones.
    - kafkaesq 10y ago
      He didn't call all Mexicans rapists. Right, only (an apparently large portion of) Mexican immigrants: When Trump declared himself a Republican candidate for president last month, he warned that the U.S. is becoming a "dumping ground" for the world's problems. "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said. "They're sending people that have lots of problems...they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
    - kafkaesq 10y ago
      I've listened to the recording, and it's about grabbing the women who let him, which is consensual by definition. In isolation, his now-famous remarks ("You can do anything you want with them; you can grab them by the p---y") could perhaps be read that way. But taken together with multiple, overlapping statements from women asserting that he did exactly that to them, and in a clearly non-consensual fashion -- these statements take on a different character. And yes, women have accused him, but women also accused Duke lacrosse team. Allegations from a single individual (as per the Duke case) are one thing. Allegations from 15+ individuals describing a consistent pattern of behavior over several years are quite another matter.

lightbyte 10y ago

Seriously, these excuses the right have been using for why he won are just ridiculous. "How dare you call me a bigot, I'll prove you wrong by voting for a bigot! Now look what you did!"

rhapsodic 10y ago
Why would the right need to offer "excuses" for Trump's victory? And you seem to think that if some smug leftist calls someone a bigot, it's incumbent upon them to "prove" to the smug leftist that they're not. That's some rather odd logic.
devsquid 10y ago
Yea I always thought that was ironic. Because "right-wing" people keeps pointing out times where individuals get "triggered" by someone saying something. IE a person's feelings got hurt when someone made fun of them for something important to them. If someone DARES point out that that comment was bigoted the "right-winged" person gets soooo triggered. I've watched whole you-tube videos of a guy being made someone called him racist after he said a racist thing... The right is a very angry place right now.

imaginenore 10y ago

What's your evidence of him being a racist? I feel like this exact attitude of shouting "racist!" whenever something doesn't go your way is what drove white men and women away from the left. I've been left-leaning my whole life, and the last few years have been disappointing, I no longer associate myself with the left, at least the American flavor of it.

devsquid 10y ago
-_- Donald Trump called Mexicans rapists. The KKK endorses him, the American Nazi Party is stoked on him. Steven Bannon is going to be his "Strategist". He's on tape talking about molesting women. Many women have come forward and accused him of trying to or having molested them. Have you ever talked to his supporters about race?
- imaginenore 10y ago
  "Mexican" is not a race. He didn't call all Mexicans rapists. He doesn't control the KKK, nor the Nazi Party. He is not on tape talking about molesting women, I've listened to the recording, and it's about grabbing the women who let him, which is consensual by definition. And yes, women have accused him, but women also accused Duke lacrosse team. Famous people often get accused with zero evidence. Notice that NONE of the women who accused him went to the police and filed the charges. So every single thing you wrote, besides Bannon, is either a lie or is out of his control. I don't know much about Bannon to judge either way, so won't comment on it. Have you ever talked to the left supporters yourself? They are the most racist group I've ever met. Youtube is full of SJWs blaming white people for all the problems, only because they are white. The are now protesting and writing things like "Kill all the whites" on the walls. That's exactly what made me distance myself from the left. And just to clarify, I don't support Trump, I don't like him, but for much different reasons than your made up ones.
  - kafkaesq 10y ago
    He didn't call all Mexicans rapists. Right, only (an apparently large portion of) Mexican immigrants: When Trump declared himself a Republican candidate for president last month, he warned that the U.S. is becoming a "dumping ground" for the world's problems. "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said. "They're sending people that have lots of problems...they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
  - kafkaesq 10y ago
    I've listened to the recording, and it's about grabbing the women who let him, which is consensual by definition. In isolation, his now-famous remarks ("You can do anything you want with them; you can grab them by the p---y") could perhaps be read that way. But taken together with multiple, overlapping statements from women asserting that he did exactly that to them, and in a clearly non-consensual fashion -- these statements take on a different character. And yes, women have accused him, but women also accused Duke lacrosse team. Allegations from a single individual (as per the Duke case) are one thing. Allegations from 15+ individuals describing a consistent pattern of behavior over several years are quite another matter.