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Not that I disagree that Soviets and Russians run propoganda machines. But the atlantic article itself reads like a propoganda. There are ethnic russians who

Not that I disagree that Soviets and Russians run propoganda machines. But the atlantic article itself reads like a propoganda. There are ethnic russians who speak russian living as the majority group in a region called novorussia less than 150 years ago. None of that is false. Why not conduct a plebiscite there? These people will shit on India for kashmir or Israel for Palestine, but will turn a blind eye towards other areas. Propoganda it is too.

qb45 10y ago
That's interesting. The Atlantic says: Take Novorossiya, the name Vladimir Putin has given to the huge wedge of southeastern Ukraine he might, or might not, consider annexing. The term is plucked from tsarist history, when it represented a different geographical space. Then they link a yandex search for, what the context suggests, should be contemporary Novorossiya maps produced by Russian propaganda. But they seem to match this map, uploaded to Wikipedia five years before the Crimean invasion: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RussianEmpireMap1800-38-NovorossiyskayaProvince.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RussianEmpireMap1800... And it does look like southeastern Ukraine indeed. So?
drieddust 10y ago
> There are ethnic russians who speak russian living as the majority group in a region called novorussia less than 150 years ago. None of that is false. Why not conduct a plebiscite there? These people will shit on India for kashmir or Israel for Palestine, but will turn a blind eye towards other areas. Propoganda it is too. I can speak about Kashmir and why plebiscite will not be a fair thing to do. Kashmiris now consists of Muslim majority as a result of systematic culling. This was not the case in 1970. With external support, an Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus was carried out for decade and Media kept silent. In fact Indian Government itself was the culprit. In its policy of minority appeasement, they completely ignored mass culling of Hindu population.
- legolas2412 10y ago
  I am Indian too, but Pandits were like 5%? A bigger issue is the radicalization of the 95%.

qb45 10y ago

That's interesting. The Atlantic says: Take Novorossiya, the name Vladimir Putin has given to the huge wedge of southeastern Ukraine he might, or might not, consider annexing. The term is plucked from tsarist history, when it represented a different geographical space. Then they link a yandex search for, what the context suggests, should be contemporary Novorossiya maps produced by Russian propaganda. But they seem to match this map, uploaded to Wikipedia five years before the Crimean invasion: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RussianEmpireMap1800-38-NovorossiyskayaProvince.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RussianEmpireMap1800... And it does look like southeastern Ukraine indeed. So?

drieddust 10y ago

> There are ethnic russians who speak russian living as the majority group in a region called novorussia less than 150 years ago. None of that is false. Why not conduct a plebiscite there? These people will shit on India for kashmir or Israel for Palestine, but will turn a blind eye towards other areas. Propoganda it is too. I can speak about Kashmir and why plebiscite will not be a fair thing to do. Kashmiris now consists of Muslim majority as a result of systematic culling. This was not the case in 1970. With external support, an Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus was carried out for decade and Media kept silent. In fact Indian Government itself was the culprit. In its policy of minority appeasement, they completely ignored mass culling of Hindu population.

legolas2412 10y ago
I am Indian too, but Pandits were like 5%? A bigger issue is the radicalization of the 95%.