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We will witness the day when everyone is forced to have a unique internet ID and your full name and address are revealed when you visit a website. It will have

by Kenji 10y ago

We will witness the day when everyone is forced to have a unique internet ID and your full name and address are revealed when you visit a website. It will have a vast chilling effect on free speech. Everyone who uses non-backdoored encryption will be a prosecuted criminal. Uncontrolled free speech only harms government and prevents it from growing.

dictum 10y ago
I wonder if that's part of Peter Thiel's plans.
- philippnagel 10y ago
  Why do you think that?
- deleted 10y ago
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pyrale 10y ago
I hate to be the sheeple-ception guy, but : > We will witness the day when everyone is forced to have a unique internet ID FB and google can already fuly trace most people's web journeys > your full name and address are revealed when you visit a website. They also have your physical data. > It will have a vast chilling effect on free speech. Facebook and Youtube's comfort bubbles of information already regulate your ability to reach people, and filter your information sources. > Everyone who uses non-backdoored encryption will be a prosecuted criminal. Meanwhile, Whatsapp, the standard bearer of encryption, leaks your data to the parent company, for advertising purpose. > Uncontrolled free speech only harms government and prevents it from growing. You're already owned by people in power. Breaking free already entails becoming an outcast in your society. And maybe, just maybe, if you fear the government to take control, allowing such power to concentrate in a couple corporation is not a good idea, and you should drop your dichotomy between private and public entities.
- myowncrapulence 10y ago
  The irony that most people agree about "around-the-corner" dystopian futures but when you provide fact that we are already living in one you start seeing "conspiracy nut/paranoid/shadow-people" replies. Many don't step out of mainstream lifestyles and so they don't see the rigid boundaries. Think Allegory of the Cave.
  - uabstraction 10y ago
    Those who do not move do not notice their chains.
- ccvannorman 10y ago
  Your main argument is on point but you weaken it with "owned by those in power". Be careful the words you choose as these seem to land you somewhere on the wrong side of conspiracy-theorist/anti-corporate. I say this because if your goal is to affect swing votes, that phrase will push them away.
- bittercynic 10y ago
  I don't want to diminish the problems you've outlined, but I do think our current state is different from what GP believes is coming. We are still free to use strong crypto, free to take steps to anonymise ourselves. As long as we can do those things without fear of prosecution, I think there is a glimmer of hope for the internet.
edejong 10y ago
Methods to circumvent this (I'll sound like ESR, but wth): 1. Own your hardware. 2. Own your data. 3. Share your algorithms. 4. Promote commercial benefits of encryption. Lift existing laws to encrypted communication, such as doctor-patient confidentiality. 5. Learn about cryptography and explain it to your techy friends. What we don't know, we fear.
- sangnoir 10y ago
  6. Own your pipes. ISPs with DPI can undo much of your efforts as they try to monetize you. This might be mitigated by encryption everywhere, but I think you're still subject to the state, which can still identify you if sufficiently motivated. Or alternatively, make it attempts at bypassing identification illegal and prosecute all those who do ("Why do you have something to hide?")

by Kenji 10y ago

dictum 10y ago

I wonder if that's part of Peter Thiel's plans.

philippnagel 10y ago
Why do you think that?
deleted 10y ago
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pyrale 10y ago

I hate to be the sheeple-ception guy, but : > We will witness the day when everyone is forced to have a unique internet ID FB and google can already fuly trace most people's web journeys > your full name and address are revealed when you visit a website. They also have your physical data. > It will have a vast chilling effect on free speech. Facebook and Youtube's comfort bubbles of information already regulate your ability to reach people, and filter your information sources. > Everyone who uses non-backdoored encryption will be a prosecuted criminal. Meanwhile, Whatsapp, the standard bearer of encryption, leaks your data to the parent company, for advertising purpose. > Uncontrolled free speech only harms government and prevents it from growing. You're already owned by people in power. Breaking free already entails becoming an outcast in your society. And maybe, just maybe, if you fear the government to take control, allowing such power to concentrate in a couple corporation is not a good idea, and you should drop your dichotomy between private and public entities.

myowncrapulence 10y ago
The irony that most people agree about "around-the-corner" dystopian futures but when you provide fact that we are already living in one you start seeing "conspiracy nut/paranoid/shadow-people" replies. Many don't step out of mainstream lifestyles and so they don't see the rigid boundaries. Think Allegory of the Cave.
- uabstraction 10y ago
  Those who do not move do not notice their chains.
ccvannorman 10y ago
Your main argument is on point but you weaken it with "owned by those in power". Be careful the words you choose as these seem to land you somewhere on the wrong side of conspiracy-theorist/anti-corporate. I say this because if your goal is to affect swing votes, that phrase will push them away.
bittercynic 10y ago
I don't want to diminish the problems you've outlined, but I do think our current state is different from what GP believes is coming. We are still free to use strong crypto, free to take steps to anonymise ourselves. As long as we can do those things without fear of prosecution, I think there is a glimmer of hope for the internet.

edejong 10y ago

Methods to circumvent this (I'll sound like ESR, but wth): 1. Own your hardware. 2. Own your data. 3. Share your algorithms. 4. Promote commercial benefits of encryption. Lift existing laws to encrypted communication, such as doctor-patient confidentiality. 5. Learn about cryptography and explain it to your techy friends. What we don't know, we fear.

sangnoir 10y ago
6. Own your pipes. ISPs with DPI can undo much of your efforts as they try to monetize you. This might be mitigated by encryption everywhere, but I think you're still subject to the state, which can still identify you if sufficiently motivated. Or alternatively, make it attempts at bypassing identification illegal and prosecute all those who do ("Why do you have something to hide?")