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<But it isn't Re-read the comment you responded to. I agreed with you. What is it that you think I am claiming? My only claim (admittedly that I am aware of)
by splawn 10y ago
<But it isn't
Re-read the comment you responded to. I agreed with you. What is it that you think I am claiming? My only claim (admittedly that I am aware of) is that fake news would have a harder time having impact in a climate where people practiced more critical thinking than they do currently.
- ThomPete 10y agoMy claim is that fake news aren't important in shaping peoples opinions. People are not going to change their views based on news.
- dsjoerg 10y agoshaping opinion != changing views. fake news helps in reinforcing views already held, which matters.
- ThomPete 10y agoMatters to what?
- splawn 10y agoDemocracy (Not speaking for GP... Just a reminder that that is the context of what we are talking about)
- ThomPete 10y agoIn what way?
- splawn 10y agoAre you not following this thread? We are talking about critical thinking wrt democracy. We got on this tangent because the first comment paraphrased the Jefferson quote: "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
- ThomPete 10y agoI am following the thread, and you aren't answering the question.
- dougmany 10y agoIf the news said this person murders puppies for fun, most people would close their mind to the possibility of voting for them.
- ThomPete 10y agoI am assuming we are having this discussion on a more elevated level that obvious absurdities. But even if you want to go down that road that I am pretty sure that there would be plenty of self correction happening unless you decided to stay isolated from the rest of the world right after you read that. Thats obviously not whats happening at all.
- dougmany 10y agoSo what is the middle ground between these two absurdities? Parent said it does not matter. I am saying it is possible that it does matter.
- ThomPete 10y agoIt doesn't matter _enough_. You have any sources what so ever that proves that misinformation actually made Trump president?
- splawn 10y agoForgive me if I am wrong... but didn't his political momentum mainly start with his very public lead role in the "birther movement"? "Global Warming is a Chinese Hoax" "Ted Cruiz's father killed JFK" "Obama and Hillary founded ISIS" Is it even possible to separate that man from misinformation? Edit: I have anecdotal "evidence" that some of his voters where swayed by this stuff from conversations I have had with Trump supporters. While that isn't enough to make the claim that misinformation is the sole cause of his election (a claim btw, that I have not seen made on this thread.. you are the one that brought it up), it does show me that its impact was greater than 0.
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