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>A healthy democracy relies on an informed citizenry, so this phenomenon is truly a threat to democracy itself. The concept has been weaponized already: Russi

>A healthy democracy relies on an informed citizenry, so this phenomenon is truly a threat to democracy itself. The concept has been weaponized already: Russia and the Menace of Unreality: How Vladimir Putin is revolutionizing information warfare[http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/russia-putin-revolutionizing-information-warfare/379880/ http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/rus...] The Challenge of Russia’s Anti-Western Information Warfare[http://www.diplomaatia.ee/en/article/the-challenge-of-russias-anti-western-information-warfare/ http://www.diplomaatia.ee/en/article/the-challenge-of-russia...]

epicureanideal 10y ago
Although the portrayal of all foreign media with a different narrative than the US media as "weaponized disinformation" could also be an example of information warfare.
- rhizome 10y ago
  Isn't it true that every for every Age -- Stone Age, Iron Age, Bronze Age, Information Age, etc. -- the age identifies the dominant material used in making weapons at the time?
  - pavel_lishin 10y ago
    Don't forget the Atomic Age.
- drieddust 10y ago
  Absolutely and US media is doing it for a long time. Afghan fighters were (see Rambo) great freedom fighters i.e Mujahideen . A decade later same Mujahideen became top villains of cinema and media. Same goes for weapons of mass destruction. Media just supported bogus claims of Bush administration to sway public support to invade Iraq. Latest of all is ISIS - It's very hard to believe that American Military who monitors almost entire world failed to monitor a high risk area for such a long time that 30,000 strong army was able to train and arm itself to such an extent that they were able to defeat trained armies.
legolas2412 10y ago
Not that I disagree that Soviets and Russians run propoganda machines. But the atlantic article itself reads like a propoganda. There are ethnic russians who speak russian living as the majority group in a region called novorussia less than 150 years ago. None of that is false. Why not conduct a plebiscite there? These people will shit on India for kashmir or Israel for Palestine, but will turn a blind eye towards other areas. Propoganda it is too.
- qb45 10y ago
  That's interesting. The Atlantic says: Take Novorossiya, the name Vladimir Putin has given to the huge wedge of southeastern Ukraine he might, or might not, consider annexing. The term is plucked from tsarist history, when it represented a different geographical space. Then they link a yandex search for, what the context suggests, should be contemporary Novorossiya maps produced by Russian propaganda. But they seem to match this map, uploaded to Wikipedia five years before the Crimean invasion: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RussianEmpireMap1800-38-NovorossiyskayaProvince.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RussianEmpireMap1800... And it does look like southeastern Ukraine indeed. So?
- drieddust 10y ago
  > There are ethnic russians who speak russian living as the majority group in a region called novorussia less than 150 years ago. None of that is false. Why not conduct a plebiscite there? These people will shit on India for kashmir or Israel for Palestine, but will turn a blind eye towards other areas. Propoganda it is too. I can speak about Kashmir and why plebiscite will not be a fair thing to do. Kashmiris now consists of Muslim majority as a result of systematic culling. This was not the case in 1970. With external support, an Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus was carried out for decade and Media kept silent. In fact Indian Government itself was the culprit. In its policy of minority appeasement, they completely ignored mass culling of Hindu population.
  - legolas2412 10y ago
    I am Indian too, but Pandits were like 5%? A bigger issue is the radicalization of the 95%.

epicureanideal 10y ago

Although the portrayal of all foreign media with a different narrative than the US media as "weaponized disinformation" could also be an example of information warfare.

rhizome 10y ago
Isn't it true that every for every Age -- Stone Age, Iron Age, Bronze Age, Information Age, etc. -- the age identifies the dominant material used in making weapons at the time?
- pavel_lishin 10y ago
  Don't forget the Atomic Age.
drieddust 10y ago
Absolutely and US media is doing it for a long time. Afghan fighters were (see Rambo) great freedom fighters i.e Mujahideen . A decade later same Mujahideen became top villains of cinema and media. Same goes for weapons of mass destruction. Media just supported bogus claims of Bush administration to sway public support to invade Iraq. Latest of all is ISIS - It's very hard to believe that American Military who monitors almost entire world failed to monitor a high risk area for such a long time that 30,000 strong army was able to train and arm itself to such an extent that they were able to defeat trained armies.

legolas2412 10y ago

Not that I disagree that Soviets and Russians run propoganda machines. But the atlantic article itself reads like a propoganda. There are ethnic russians who speak russian living as the majority group in a region called novorussia less than 150 years ago. None of that is false. Why not conduct a plebiscite there? These people will shit on India for kashmir or Israel for Palestine, but will turn a blind eye towards other areas. Propoganda it is too.

qb45 10y ago
That's interesting. The Atlantic says: Take Novorossiya, the name Vladimir Putin has given to the huge wedge of southeastern Ukraine he might, or might not, consider annexing. The term is plucked from tsarist history, when it represented a different geographical space. Then they link a yandex search for, what the context suggests, should be contemporary Novorossiya maps produced by Russian propaganda. But they seem to match this map, uploaded to Wikipedia five years before the Crimean invasion: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RussianEmpireMap1800-38-NovorossiyskayaProvince.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RussianEmpireMap1800... And it does look like southeastern Ukraine indeed. So?
drieddust 10y ago
> There are ethnic russians who speak russian living as the majority group in a region called novorussia less than 150 years ago. None of that is false. Why not conduct a plebiscite there? These people will shit on India for kashmir or Israel for Palestine, but will turn a blind eye towards other areas. Propoganda it is too. I can speak about Kashmir and why plebiscite will not be a fair thing to do. Kashmiris now consists of Muslim majority as a result of systematic culling. This was not the case in 1970. With external support, an Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus was carried out for decade and Media kept silent. In fact Indian Government itself was the culprit. In its policy of minority appeasement, they completely ignored mass culling of Hindu population.
- legolas2412 10y ago
  I am Indian too, but Pandits were like 5%? A bigger issue is the radicalization of the 95%.