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You assume the outcome would be the same - I see no evidence to support that B > A. Given that A is the incumbent business model and form, B would have to be ru

You assume the outcome would be the same - I see no evidence to support that B > A. Given that A is the incumbent business model and form, B would have to be run for 5+ years to prove that there is anything there that can win consistently and also scale to the needs of the institutional investor. Indeed, if you are a new fund starting out and seeking institutional money and are not coming from an established firm, you can expect to have to develop 3-5 years, minimum, of track record before anyone will generally invest in you. Given that any trader on this platform might disappear overnight, I don't see institutions rushing to put money into it.

kevinali1 10y ago
Perhaps (just perhaps), Quantopian is gathering (or has gathered) the evidence that B > A. If so, this is a great investment. Regarding institutional money, they have been around for a few years. I'm not sure about how long they've been running the competition, but they certainly have been running an asset management service for some time - and would have impeccable records regarding this. In other words, there is a lot about Quantopian that we don't know and so it would be difficult to make a judgement call on the quality of AH's investment.
- inthewoods 10y ago
  My point is that I think it has a fundamental problem - if someone has a successful algo, they take it off the platform. Institutional money would be very leery (indeed, this isn't the first time this model has been tried). So even if I'm confident in their overall model, based on, say, 5 years of track record, I'd still be concerned over algos just disappearing. Also, they've only been running their asset management business for a relatively short time via the investment capital from Cohen's fund.
  - daveguy 10y ago
    I think when you submit an algorithm you give quantopian non exclusive rights to use it indefinitely. Even if you stop participating the best algorithms will still be used.
    - daveguy 10y ago
      Update: looking at the FAQs that applies to contest submissions only. They state in the FAQ that all algorithms developed and evaluated on the site are by default owned by the developer. Entering the contests give them license to use.
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kevinali1 10y ago

Perhaps (just perhaps), Quantopian is gathering (or has gathered) the evidence that B > A. If so, this is a great investment. Regarding institutional money, they have been around for a few years. I'm not sure about how long they've been running the competition, but they certainly have been running an asset management service for some time - and would have impeccable records regarding this. In other words, there is a lot about Quantopian that we don't know and so it would be difficult to make a judgement call on the quality of AH's investment.

inthewoods 10y ago
My point is that I think it has a fundamental problem - if someone has a successful algo, they take it off the platform. Institutional money would be very leery (indeed, this isn't the first time this model has been tried). So even if I'm confident in their overall model, based on, say, 5 years of track record, I'd still be concerned over algos just disappearing. Also, they've only been running their asset management business for a relatively short time via the investment capital from Cohen's fund.
- daveguy 10y ago
  I think when you submit an algorithm you give quantopian non exclusive rights to use it indefinitely. Even if you stop participating the best algorithms will still be used.
  - daveguy 10y ago
    Update: looking at the FAQs that applies to contest submissions only. They state in the FAQ that all algorithms developed and evaluated on the site are by default owned by the developer. Entering the contests give them license to use.
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