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For context, the NHS is one of the largest employers in the world. The list[1] currently goes: - US Department of Defense - The Chinese Army - Walmart - McD

For context, the NHS is one of the largest employers in the world. The list[1] currently goes: - US Department of Defense - The Chinese Army - Walmart - McDonalds - The NHS And The NHS's staff are all far more likely to actually have to use a computer and email in their day-to-day work than most of those Walmart and McDonalds employees. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers

tedmiston 10y ago
As an anecdote, having worked as a contractor for the DoD, the amount of mail received (internally) that is not relevant to your actual work or job is somewhat astronomical, 90–95% for me. There are many, many lists, warnings, notices, digests, alerts, etc.
- jff 10y ago
  We sometimes get situations where there's a semi-important note in a daily newsletter, and the group secretary decides to copy-paste it in an email to the whole group. Then the level 1 manager doesn't look at the To: line and forwards it to the whole group again. Then our level 2 manager gets the same information from someone else and forwards it to the entire group as well. I'll get the exact same information about today's health and wellness walk or whatever upwards of 3-4 times.
- Thriptic 10y ago
  Having done some affiliate work with the VA, I can confirm that this is indeed the case.
bradleyjg 10y ago
McDonalds doesn't really belong on the list as they include employees of franchises. Or if does than there are some other organizations that belong on the list as well -- such as the Roman Catholic Church.
- mschuster91 10y ago
  > such as the Roman Catholic Church. The RCC does not provide a world- or even countrywide emailing system for clergy people, maybe except the Vatican. I did a little gig for a church group once, chances are high that most of them are technically illiterate and are happy if some dude like me throws 'em a Wordpress template and a (back in the days) free Google Apps mail account.
  - civilian 10y ago
    I don't think that bradleyjg is asking about the technical literacy. He's asking "What qualifies as an employee, in regards to that wiki list?"
- tn13 10y ago
  But it is fair comparison here as they might end up using the same technological infrastructure unlike the Church. Indian Railways is another large employer with unique technology problems.
- digler999 10y ago
  why does the accounting designation of a "franchise" imply the employee shouldn't be counted ? They wear a uniform that says McDonalds, they show up 40+ hrs/week at a building that has "McDonalds" written on it. The product they sell has McDonalds written everywhere on it. Advertisements say "go to McDonalds", not "Go to your nearest McDonalds Franchise". What makes them not an employee of McDonalds ?
  - bradleyjg 10y ago
    The uniform may say McDonalds but the paycheck doesn't.
  - Someone 10y ago
    If the franchise owner doesn't pay its employees, they cannot go to McDonalds headquarters to get their money. If somebody sues a McDonalds shop and gets awarded a large sum of money, they cannot go and get it from McDonalds headquarters. If McDonalds were to go bankrupt, emplyees would still have a job (possibly not for very long, as your employer may decide to close shop, but he might also consider continuing under his own name or to start working for another franchise organization) (Having said that, McDonalds exerts quite some control over what their franchisers can and cannot do. It would not surprise me if judges, in some/many, would rule McDonalds to be responsible for what happens at its franchises, for example in cases involving hygiene)
kazinator 10y ago
> NHS is one of the largest employers in the world. Yet nobody can be found in that entire throng who can command an e-mail server into putting a swift end to a runaway thread.

tedmiston 10y ago

As an anecdote, having worked as a contractor for the DoD, the amount of mail received (internally) that is not relevant to your actual work or job is somewhat astronomical, 90–95% for me. There are many, many lists, warnings, notices, digests, alerts, etc.

jff 10y ago
We sometimes get situations where there's a semi-important note in a daily newsletter, and the group secretary decides to copy-paste it in an email to the whole group. Then the level 1 manager doesn't look at the To: line and forwards it to the whole group again. Then our level 2 manager gets the same information from someone else and forwards it to the entire group as well. I'll get the exact same information about today's health and wellness walk or whatever upwards of 3-4 times.
Thriptic 10y ago
Having done some affiliate work with the VA, I can confirm that this is indeed the case.

bradleyjg 10y ago

McDonalds doesn't really belong on the list as they include employees of franchises. Or if does than there are some other organizations that belong on the list as well -- such as the Roman Catholic Church.

mschuster91 10y ago
> such as the Roman Catholic Church. The RCC does not provide a world- or even countrywide emailing system for clergy people, maybe except the Vatican. I did a little gig for a church group once, chances are high that most of them are technically illiterate and are happy if some dude like me throws 'em a Wordpress template and a (back in the days) free Google Apps mail account.
- civilian 10y ago
  I don't think that bradleyjg is asking about the technical literacy. He's asking "What qualifies as an employee, in regards to that wiki list?"
tn13 10y ago
But it is fair comparison here as they might end up using the same technological infrastructure unlike the Church. Indian Railways is another large employer with unique technology problems.
digler999 10y ago
why does the accounting designation of a "franchise" imply the employee shouldn't be counted ? They wear a uniform that says McDonalds, they show up 40+ hrs/week at a building that has "McDonalds" written on it. The product they sell has McDonalds written everywhere on it. Advertisements say "go to McDonalds", not "Go to your nearest McDonalds Franchise". What makes them not an employee of McDonalds ?
- bradleyjg 10y ago
  The uniform may say McDonalds but the paycheck doesn't.
- Someone 10y ago
  If the franchise owner doesn't pay its employees, they cannot go to McDonalds headquarters to get their money. If somebody sues a McDonalds shop and gets awarded a large sum of money, they cannot go and get it from McDonalds headquarters. If McDonalds were to go bankrupt, emplyees would still have a job (possibly not for very long, as your employer may decide to close shop, but he might also consider continuing under his own name or to start working for another franchise organization) (Having said that, McDonalds exerts quite some control over what their franchisers can and cannot do. It would not surprise me if judges, in some/many, would rule McDonalds to be responsible for what happens at its franchises, for example in cases involving hygiene)

kazinator 10y ago

> NHS is one of the largest employers in the world. Yet nobody can be found in that entire throng who can command an e-mail server into putting a swift end to a runaway thread.