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Interesting, but I can also see some risks with their approach. Now they have three different Visual Studios with completely different technology stacks. 1) Vi

Interesting, but I can also see some risks with their approach. Now they have three different Visual Studios with completely different technology stacks. 1) Visual Studio for Windows (C++, I assume?) 2) Visual Studio Code (Javascript, Atom) 3) Visual Studio for Mac (C#)

Kipters 10y ago
Visual Studio for Windows is written in C# with WPF, but your point is still valid since they are two different codebases
- ygra 10y ago
  Visual Studio for Windows is mostly C++, plus a lot of other things. Heck, there's JavaScript in there, too.
  - Kipters 10y ago
    It used to, they moved to WPF with Visual Studio 2010, now it's mostly WPF with some legacy parts that are still in C++
    - satysin 10y ago
      AFAIK the editor (shell) is WPF (C#?) but the internals are still mostly C++/Win32.
      - Kipters 10y ago
        Seems plausible, I don't know enough details to argue this.
      - int_19h 10y ago
        The shell still has a lot of C++ in it, yes (but also a lot of C#). But the shell is a relatively small part of the entire IDE - the bulk of it is the extensions that actually provide support for various languages and technologies. Those also have some C++, either as legacy code, or because the team just preferred it, but by now C# is definitely the majority of it, and it keeps trending in that direction. A lot of it can be very non-obvious and defying common sense. For example, if you take VS 2013 (pre-Roslyn), the C++ project system was written entirely in C#, while the C# project system was written mostly in C++.
        Kipters 10y ago
        Even in the .NET Core world, the managed runtime is written in C++, the native runtime (for .NET Native) is written in C#.
thebeardedone 10y ago
Hmm I have been googling for the last 15 minutes to find the difference between visual studio and visual studio code and cant seem to find a concrete answer. I thought yours was actually a hint at what it is aimed for but when you go to: http://code.visualstudio.com/ http://code.visualstudio.com/ it actually says it supports c++,c#... I still dont get what the difference is.. Having only ever developed on linux I am actually slightly excited to use an IDE like visual studio after seeing some people at work use it..
- madeofpalk 10y ago
  Visual Studio Code is more like a fancy text editor rather an a full IDE. It's more like Sublime Text or (technically) Atom, rather than an IDE like Visual Studio for Windows or XCode.
- Kipters 10y ago
  Visual Studio and Visual Studio for Mac are IDEs written in C# and they support C#, C++, VB.Net and many other languages. Visual Studio Code is a text editor built in TypeScript and based on Electron. It supports a broad range of languages, but it's an advanced text editor, not a full fledged IDE
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- ZenoArrow 10y ago
  >"it actually says it supports c++,c#... I still dont get what the difference is.." The GP was looking at the languages the tools were written in, not the languages they support. For what it's worth, I believe 'TypeScript + Electron' would be a closer description of what VSC was based on.
- erikbye 10y ago
  You do know the difference between a text editor and an IDE? That's the difference between VS Code and VS.
Jaruzel 10y ago
Visual Studio for Windows is mainly written in C# I believe.
- moljacsharp 10y ago
  Nope. Most of the UI was rewritten for VS2010 with WPF (XAML, DirectX acceleration), but lower/deeper parts are written in c++ and this makes porting "probelmatic" (MFC, win32.dll, kernel.dll to posix stuff). MonoDevelop ~ Xamarin.Studio is written in C# (some plugins in F#) and this makes porting easier. That is the reason there was MonoDevelop version on Windows.
cwyers 10y ago
But if you're writing C# in any of them, you're using the Roslyn compiler and its attendant services, so you get the same IntelliSense, you can share the same project files, etc.

Kipters 10y ago

Visual Studio for Windows is written in C# with WPF, but your point is still valid since they are two different codebases

ygra 10y ago
Visual Studio for Windows is mostly C++, plus a lot of other things. Heck, there's JavaScript in there, too.
- Kipters 10y ago
  It used to, they moved to WPF with Visual Studio 2010, now it's mostly WPF with some legacy parts that are still in C++
  - satysin 10y ago
    AFAIK the editor (shell) is WPF (C#?) but the internals are still mostly C++/Win32.
    - Kipters 10y ago
      Seems plausible, I don't know enough details to argue this.
    - int_19h 10y ago
      The shell still has a lot of C++ in it, yes (but also a lot of C#). But the shell is a relatively small part of the entire IDE - the bulk of it is the extensions that actually provide support for various languages and technologies. Those also have some C++, either as legacy code, or because the team just preferred it, but by now C# is definitely the majority of it, and it keeps trending in that direction. A lot of it can be very non-obvious and defying common sense. For example, if you take VS 2013 (pre-Roslyn), the C++ project system was written entirely in C#, while the C# project system was written mostly in C++.
      - Kipters 10y ago
        Even in the .NET Core world, the managed runtime is written in C++, the native runtime (for .NET Native) is written in C#.

thebeardedone 10y ago

Hmm I have been googling for the last 15 minutes to find the difference between visual studio and visual studio code and cant seem to find a concrete answer. I thought yours was actually a hint at what it is aimed for but when you go to: http://code.visualstudio.com/ http://code.visualstudio.com/ it actually says it supports c++,c#... I still dont get what the difference is.. Having only ever developed on linux I am actually slightly excited to use an IDE like visual studio after seeing some people at work use it..

madeofpalk 10y ago
Visual Studio Code is more like a fancy text editor rather an a full IDE. It's more like Sublime Text or (technically) Atom, rather than an IDE like Visual Studio for Windows or XCode.
Kipters 10y ago
Visual Studio and Visual Studio for Mac are IDEs written in C# and they support C#, C++, VB.Net and many other languages. Visual Studio Code is a text editor built in TypeScript and based on Electron. It supports a broad range of languages, but it's an advanced text editor, not a full fledged IDE
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ZenoArrow 10y ago
>"it actually says it supports c++,c#... I still dont get what the difference is.." The GP was looking at the languages the tools were written in, not the languages they support. For what it's worth, I believe 'TypeScript + Electron' would be a closer description of what VSC was based on.
erikbye 10y ago
You do know the difference between a text editor and an IDE? That's the difference between VS Code and VS.

Jaruzel 10y ago

Visual Studio for Windows is mainly written in C# I believe.

moljacsharp 10y ago
Nope. Most of the UI was rewritten for VS2010 with WPF (XAML, DirectX acceleration), but lower/deeper parts are written in c++ and this makes porting "probelmatic" (MFC, win32.dll, kernel.dll to posix stuff). MonoDevelop ~ Xamarin.Studio is written in C# (some plugins in F#) and this makes porting easier. That is the reason there was MonoDevelop version on Windows.

cwyers 10y ago

But if you're writing C# in any of them, you're using the Roslyn compiler and its attendant services, so you get the same IntelliSense, you can share the same project files, etc.