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This is another reason to use HTTPS.
by darkhorn 10y ago
This is another reason to use HTTPS.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoHTTPS doesn't mask the source IP block of the content. Pretty easy to throttle Youtube, Netflix, etc based on their CDN blocks.
- mdorazio 10y agoYup, this is more a reason to use a VPN.
- teaneedz 10y agothis.
- helthanatos 10y agoVPNs cost money. Until it is forced, there isn't much of a point in using a VPN (besides AT&T's wonderful spying track record). VPNs are great but until more are free, it's better to deal with switching a setting.
- mschuster91 10y ago> Until it is forced, there isn't much of a point in using a VPN Well, America just elected Trump to office, and here in Europe the situation doesn't look much better (crisis law in France, calls for more and more surveillance state across Europe, and right-wing populists/extremists gaining power in country by country). I'd say there has never been a better argument for VPN/Tor usage than right now.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoMs Clinton did not communicate any intentions of shutting down the NSA domestic surveillance apparatus, part of Obama's legacy (which she campaigned on).
- walterbell 10y agoVPN to a home broadband device is free, modulo ISP data caps.
- dogma1138 10y agoIf they just throttle your bandwidth and not play around with CDN's (ISP's actually mirror and cache YT and Netflix videos) then it doesn't matter. If they only give you 1mbit/s of bandwidth you aren't going to be watching HD videos unless you are willing to let it constantly buffer, and there are also ways for them to screw with that like resetting the connection every 5min or so.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoI've never seen an ISP use TCP resets against any traffic other than BitTorrent, but I suppose it could be done by a particularly aggressive operator.
- TazeTSchnitzel 10y agoIt doesn't mask the domain either, at least where SNI is involved.
- jacobwil 10y agoRegardless of SNI the certificate is unencrypted (until TLS 1.3).
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- ryandvm 10y agoThe original comment is absolutely correct in that if the video stream is delivered via HTTPS it is impossible to downsample it. Now, whether YouTube et al actually use HTTPS for the video stream, I don't know...
- toomuchtodo 10y agoNot true. You can throttle packets by source or destination IP block, and by throttling the connection, the player will be forced down to a lower bitrate rendition. This is how T-Mobile performs their throttling, and could be done to any class of traffic. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/01/eff-confirms-t-mobiles-bingeon-optimization-just-throttling-applies https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/01/eff-confirms-t-mobiles...
- WhitneyLand 10y agoSo what happens when there is only one bitrate available at 1080p and it's encrypted?
- toomuchtodo 10y agoYour player is going to stutter hard if it doesn't wait to preload enough of the content. Disclaimer: My last job was infrastructure at an Internet-only video news org.
- 3pt14159 10y agoIs it possible to multiplex from various IPs? IPv6 has a huuuuge address space.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoA pretty easy traffic pattern to identify and respond to (just like bittorrent or OpenVPN over SSL).
- hiou 10y agoAs an aside this type of thing gets me throttled pulling down 500MB+ git repos. Not T-Mobile specifically but Clear.