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Reading this apparently biased article in favor of DataStax, it seems like no one is coming out of this situation looking good. I personally believe that DataSt

Reading this apparently biased article in favor of DataStax, it seems like no one is coming out of this situation looking good. I personally believe that DataStax may have overplayed their hand here since several of the high-powered Silicon Valley companies use Cassandra. If DS' commercial offerings aren't up to snuff, one of them will undoubtedly step in to help steer development of the source in a direction that benefits them. Cassandra is one of the better big datastore offerings out there, and the doom and gloom narrative played by the article seems a bit disingenuous to say the least.

x0x0 10y ago
There's a difference between use and pay the bills to develop; fundamentally, the companies paying the engineers and testers and hardware bills thereof will control the direction of the project regardless of what the pmc wants. Or the company footing the bill for all the documentation and code samples [1]. It is also a little weird that java driver development seems to be run by DataStax and not the apache community. Hopefully this won't cause datastax to fork from apache cassandra. [1] http://www.datastax.com/2016/10/take-a-bow-planet-cassandra http://www.datastax.com/2016/10/take-a-bow-planet-cassandra
_benedict 10y ago
I honestly don't see how companies, that aren't monetising Cassandra, providing resources to the project is a major risk to Datastax. This only improves Cassandra's mindshare in (and share of) the market, while leaving them to corner the large corporate client base as well as target their engineering efforts on things that can directly yield revenue. Although I think you overestimate the inclination and ability of these corporations to invest - at least to date, only Apple has demonstrated any capacity or willingness to do so, and they are fairly slow about it. Their lawyers and antiquated deployments lead to very few (but quite big) improvements, and so far all of them have needed help from Datastax to be incorporated. This is despite a largeish team of people with direct experience of participating in the project; no other SV company has any such employee at present, and bootstrapping such a team would be non-trivial. Instaclustr claims they intend to do this, but it remains to be seen how successful they will be.
- jjirsa 10y ago
  I've committed a few Instaclustr patches in the past month - they weren't huge, but they exist (and I appreciate that). Also some patches coming out of FB/Instagram (with a new committer as well).
jjirsa 10y ago
> the doom and gloom narrative played by the article seems a bit disingenuous to say the least Would you have read it if it said "a bunch of nerds argued about nerdy things on the internet, and in the end, everything will be OK" ?

x0x0 10y ago

There's a difference between use and pay the bills to develop; fundamentally, the companies paying the engineers and testers and hardware bills thereof will control the direction of the project regardless of what the pmc wants. Or the company footing the bill for all the documentation and code samples [1]. It is also a little weird that java driver development seems to be run by DataStax and not the apache community. Hopefully this won't cause datastax to fork from apache cassandra. [1] http://www.datastax.com/2016/10/take-a-bow-planet-cassandra http://www.datastax.com/2016/10/take-a-bow-planet-cassandra

_benedict 10y ago

I honestly don't see how companies, that aren't monetising Cassandra, providing resources to the project is a major risk to Datastax. This only improves Cassandra's mindshare in (and share of) the market, while leaving them to corner the large corporate client base as well as target their engineering efforts on things that can directly yield revenue. Although I think you overestimate the inclination and ability of these corporations to invest - at least to date, only Apple has demonstrated any capacity or willingness to do so, and they are fairly slow about it. Their lawyers and antiquated deployments lead to very few (but quite big) improvements, and so far all of them have needed help from Datastax to be incorporated. This is despite a largeish team of people with direct experience of participating in the project; no other SV company has any such employee at present, and bootstrapping such a team would be non-trivial. Instaclustr claims they intend to do this, but it remains to be seen how successful they will be.

jjirsa 10y ago
I've committed a few Instaclustr patches in the past month - they weren't huge, but they exist (and I appreciate that). Also some patches coming out of FB/Instagram (with a new committer as well).

jjirsa 10y ago

> the doom and gloom narrative played by the article seems a bit disingenuous to say the least Would you have read it if it said "a bunch of nerds argued about nerdy things on the internet, and in the end, everything will be OK" ?