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"Trump adds the hate." Can we PLEASE stop with that nonsense? You might not agree. It doesn't mean it's "hate". The election is over. Get over it. Please.

by mythrwy 10y ago

semi-extrinsic 10y ago
Well, several things that Trump has said in public during his presidential campaign can arguably be called "hate speech". The UK legal definition is """ A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or (b) having regard to all the circumstances, racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby. """ Would you seriously suggest that when Trump says """ When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. """ that this is does not fit the above definition of hate speech?
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- mythrwy 10y ago
  Very arguably. "hate speech" as opposed to "hate". Please just stop with the campaign sound bite nonsense. I'm weary of it.
- SixSigma 10y ago
  I guess truth is hateful after all
- Houshalter 10y ago
  Who cares what the UK legal definition is? That definition is pretty arbitrary, and could include a lot of things that the average person wouldn't consider "hateful". The UK in particular has notoriously strict limits on freedom of speech that are incredibly antithetical to the US. I don't really agree with the quote. But I think it's perfectly defensible. For starters, "illegal immigrant" isn't a race. Trump never said anything about hispanics in general, or people that were born in the US. I believe in context the quote didn't apply to legal immigrants either. It's really disturbing to me that this climate has become so polarized, that anyone that says something you disagree with is "hate speech". Whether or not illegal immigration actually increases crime, it's a perfectly debatable issue. I think it's probably not true, but I can certainly understand why people would be concerned about it. I wouldn't consider those people racists.

"Trump adds the hate." Can we PLEASE stop with that nonsense? You might not agree. It doesn't mean it's "hate". The election is over. Get over it. Please.

by mythrwy 10y ago

"Trump adds the hate." Can we PLEASE stop with that nonsense? You might not agree. It doesn't mean it's "hate". The election is over. Get over it. Please.

semi-extrinsic 10y ago

Well, several things that Trump has said in public during his presidential campaign can arguably be called "hate speech". The UK legal definition is """ A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or (b) having regard to all the circumstances, racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby. """ Would you seriously suggest that when Trump says """ When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. """ that this is does not fit the above definition of hate speech?

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mythrwy 10y ago
Very arguably. "hate speech" as opposed to "hate". Please just stop with the campaign sound bite nonsense. I'm weary of it.
SixSigma 10y ago
I guess truth is hateful after all
Houshalter 10y ago
Who cares what the UK legal definition is? That definition is pretty arbitrary, and could include a lot of things that the average person wouldn't consider "hateful". The UK in particular has notoriously strict limits on freedom of speech that are incredibly antithetical to the US. I don't really agree with the quote. But I think it's perfectly defensible. For starters, "illegal immigrant" isn't a race. Trump never said anything about hispanics in general, or people that were born in the US. I believe in context the quote didn't apply to legal immigrants either. It's really disturbing to me that this climate has become so polarized, that anyone that says something you disagree with is "hate speech". Whether or not illegal immigration actually increases crime, it's a perfectly debatable issue. I think it's probably not true, but I can certainly understand why people would be concerned about it. I wouldn't consider those people racists.