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Don’t think Trump, or HRC were best choices, but i’d still pick either over Sanders. Sanders presidency would’ve been a disaster to the economy. He would've mad

by dreta 10y ago

Don’t think Trump, or HRC were best choices, but i’d still pick either over Sanders. Sanders presidency would’ve been a disaster to the economy. He would've made starting a business, and employing people even harder than it is now. By rising the minimum wage he would’ve ruined the lower and lower-middle class by the time he’s out of office. Not to mention that Sanders’ gripe with the 1% is more populist than anything Trump or HRC ever said. As soon as he lost to HRC, he bought a 3rd house for $600,000. He sold out to HRC after he got shafted by the DNC. He can talk about the status quo all he wants, but he’s a part of it.

moyta 10y ago
Sander's policies were far from economy destroying, they were classic New Deal Democrat policies that rebuilt America in the 1930s and put millions back to work building the dams, roadways, and infrastructure that keep our society running today. Then, at the tail end of 1941 we had spent the better part of a decade rebuilding our infrastructure and were ready to join in on WW2, so we used all these dams, roadways, etc to build the arms & the Liberty Ships to transport said arms.
- dreta 10y ago
  It’s not at all agreed upon that the New Deal helped the recovery. It’s just as much argued that it prolonged the Great Depression. It’s baffling to me that you’d state that like it’s a historical fact.
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    It's agreed upon among everyone who wasn't in the Mount Pelerin Society.
  - moyta 10y ago
    How else do you rebuild an economy that just had a huge bubble pop in one major industry, has the dust bowl going on, and has knockon effects destroying the entirety of peoples savings? Greece tried to tighten their belt and tax their way out of it, just led to compounding double digit economic contraction. Instead, when we have bubbles pop, we usually inject money into the economy to keep economic carnage like that at bay, and in the 1930s we created a jobs program so as to put those funds to effective use. This has worked well for the US, as compared to Greece.
    - dreta 10y ago
      You don’t need government investment to make that happen. The issue was the lack of money supply, which was solved partially by Roosevelt’s ban on owning gold, but partially by people fleeing Europe, which allowed the federal government to print more. This has nothing to do with Sanders’ policies though. Sanders’ policies are a continuation of everything wrong with the New Deal, namely things like the minimum wage and government-supported worker unions, which prevent hiring of low-skilled workers, usually from the lower class, and make hiring overall a risky process, leading to less hires, higher unemployment, and corporations outsourcing abroad.

by dreta 10y ago

moyta 10y ago

Sander's policies were far from economy destroying, they were classic New Deal Democrat policies that rebuilt America in the 1930s and put millions back to work building the dams, roadways, and infrastructure that keep our society running today. Then, at the tail end of 1941 we had spent the better part of a decade rebuilding our infrastructure and were ready to join in on WW2, so we used all these dams, roadways, etc to build the arms & the Liberty Ships to transport said arms.

dreta 10y ago
It’s not at all agreed upon that the New Deal helped the recovery. It’s just as much argued that it prolonged the Great Depression. It’s baffling to me that you’d state that like it’s a historical fact.
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  It's agreed upon among everyone who wasn't in the Mount Pelerin Society.
- moyta 10y ago
  How else do you rebuild an economy that just had a huge bubble pop in one major industry, has the dust bowl going on, and has knockon effects destroying the entirety of peoples savings? Greece tried to tighten their belt and tax their way out of it, just led to compounding double digit economic contraction. Instead, when we have bubbles pop, we usually inject money into the economy to keep economic carnage like that at bay, and in the 1930s we created a jobs program so as to put those funds to effective use. This has worked well for the US, as compared to Greece.
  - dreta 10y ago
    You don’t need government investment to make that happen. The issue was the lack of money supply, which was solved partially by Roosevelt’s ban on owning gold, but partially by people fleeing Europe, which allowed the federal government to print more. This has nothing to do with Sanders’ policies though. Sanders’ policies are a continuation of everything wrong with the New Deal, namely things like the minimum wage and government-supported worker unions, which prevent hiring of low-skilled workers, usually from the lower class, and make hiring overall a risky process, leading to less hires, higher unemployment, and corporations outsourcing abroad.