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This is a 2014 article, what's changed since that? I think those bodyshops still operate and nothing changed.

pmorici 10y ago
A Congress and President were just elected who claim to support doing something about it. That and there were some high profile abuses that lead to lawsuits and congressional attention in the past year more so than in the past, like the Walt Disney layoff. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/lawsuit-claims-disney-colluded-to-replace-us-workers-with-immigrants.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/lawsuit-claims-disney-c...
- maxxxxx 10y ago
  I would be shocked if the new administration changed anything. In the end the Republicans will always side with business and they clearly want even more H-1Bs. But I am ready to be positively surprised....
  - guscost 10y ago
    Maybe, if we're lucky, these "elite business people" will start to figure out that cutting corners and optimizing for the bottom line on paper is a horrible strategy for knowledge work. Taylorism in offices needs to die already.
  - hga 10y ago
    Perhaps you didn't notice, but the GOPe(stablishment) that sides with businesses on this issue loathed and loathe Trump with a burning passion, and he got elected in spite of them in terms of active help (passively, their total awfulness in these sorts of areas created conditions that allowed a Trump to win). So I'd a) watch to see if he doesn't pack his administration with too many GOPe types and/or b) fires them quickly if they revert to type (he's decisive that way, even legendary, you might say), and c) ends up campaigning against a Do Nothing Congress (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_United_States_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_United_States_Congress) in 2018 (and on) so that he'll eventually be able to get promises like his "Intel, not Infosys" one on H-1Bs fixed in the law. Actually, administratively he can nuke the Infosys type bodyshops from orbit, especially if he takes a page from JFK's playbook and starts putting their executives in Federal prison.
    - maxxxxx 10y ago
      As I said I am ready to be positively surprised. There is a lot of talk in American politics but when it comes to action the actions are usually very predictable. In my view Trump is no revolutionary when it comes to actual policy. But we'll see...
      - hga 10y ago
        Well, the calculus a lot of us Trump voters made starting in the primaries was that we were certainly going to lose with any other candidate, Trump at least offered a chance of "winning" (or not losing so hard, whatever; my local power plant that converted it's coal boiler to gas (and boy was that forced change stupid from a fragility standpoint) is not going back to coal absent a serious gas shortage and a lot of time, but he can in this area at least stop trying to explicitly kill off the industry, as Obama promised and did, and Clinton promised to, on the campaign trail (really, what were the Democrats thinking when they nominated her???)). Note that he doesn't have to be "revolutionary" in one sense, if he's just another FDR Democrat like Reagan labeled himself as (albeit neither being viciously anti-business), that would be a huge improvement.
        maxxxxx 10y ago
        I think you are in for a big disappointment.
  - pyrophane 10y ago
    The direction that I fear is most likely is that we will have an immigration bill that appeases Trump's supporters by marginalizing immigrants while simultaneously quietly advancing business interests by expanding H1-B in a way that won't end the current exploitation.
    - happyrock 10y ago
      What does "margininalizing immigrants" refer to, vis-a-vis policy and enforcement of immigration law? Trump's stance on H1-B is quite clear from his policy papers, speeches, as well as those policy documents written by his main immigration advisor Sen. Jeff Sessions. This is all out in the open for anyone to read, but I suspect you just wanted to take a gratuitous shot at Trump's supporters, so, good job.

A Congress and President were just elected who claim to support doing something about it. That and there were some high profile abuses that lead to lawsuits and congressional attention in the past year more so than in the past, like the Walt Disney layoff. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/lawsuit-claims-disney-colluded-to-replace-us-workers-with-immigrants.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/lawsuit-claims-disney-c...

maxxxxx 10y ago
I would be shocked if the new administration changed anything. In the end the Republicans will always side with business and they clearly want even more H-1Bs. But I am ready to be positively surprised....
- guscost 10y ago
  Maybe, if we're lucky, these "elite business people" will start to figure out that cutting corners and optimizing for the bottom line on paper is a horrible strategy for knowledge work. Taylorism in offices needs to die already.
- hga 10y ago
  Perhaps you didn't notice, but the GOPe(stablishment) that sides with businesses on this issue loathed and loathe Trump with a burning passion, and he got elected in spite of them in terms of active help (passively, their total awfulness in these sorts of areas created conditions that allowed a Trump to win). So I'd a) watch to see if he doesn't pack his administration with too many GOPe types and/or b) fires them quickly if they revert to type (he's decisive that way, even legendary, you might say), and c) ends up campaigning against a Do Nothing Congress (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_United_States_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_United_States_Congress) in 2018 (and on) so that he'll eventually be able to get promises like his "Intel, not Infosys" one on H-1Bs fixed in the law. Actually, administratively he can nuke the Infosys type bodyshops from orbit, especially if he takes a page from JFK's playbook and starts putting their executives in Federal prison.
  - maxxxxx 10y ago
    As I said I am ready to be positively surprised. There is a lot of talk in American politics but when it comes to action the actions are usually very predictable. In my view Trump is no revolutionary when it comes to actual policy. But we'll see...
    - hga 10y ago
      Well, the calculus a lot of us Trump voters made starting in the primaries was that we were certainly going to lose with any other candidate, Trump at least offered a chance of "winning" (or not losing so hard, whatever; my local power plant that converted it's coal boiler to gas (and boy was that forced change stupid from a fragility standpoint) is not going back to coal absent a serious gas shortage and a lot of time, but he can in this area at least stop trying to explicitly kill off the industry, as Obama promised and did, and Clinton promised to, on the campaign trail (really, what were the Democrats thinking when they nominated her???)). Note that he doesn't have to be "revolutionary" in one sense, if he's just another FDR Democrat like Reagan labeled himself as (albeit neither being viciously anti-business), that would be a huge improvement.
      - maxxxxx 10y ago
        I think you are in for a big disappointment.
- pyrophane 10y ago
  The direction that I fear is most likely is that we will have an immigration bill that appeases Trump's supporters by marginalizing immigrants while simultaneously quietly advancing business interests by expanding H1-B in a way that won't end the current exploitation.
  - happyrock 10y ago
    What does "margininalizing immigrants" refer to, vis-a-vis policy and enforcement of immigration law? Trump's stance on H1-B is quite clear from his policy papers, speeches, as well as those policy documents written by his main immigration advisor Sen. Jeff Sessions. This is all out in the open for anyone to read, but I suspect you just wanted to take a gratuitous shot at Trump's supporters, so, good job.