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That is the point that elktea is making. More USA cities should be like NYC.

• niftich 10y ago
  But do people in NYC bond any more with strangers than they do in Peoria? Phoenix? Some outer-ring suburb of St. Louis?
  • tonyedgecombe 10y ago
    That would be worth studying.
  • pantalaimon 10y ago
    I live in Berlin and it's not hard meeting new people in Bars, Clubs, meetup.com events and the like - but then again I'm not over 30 yet, the same is true for most of the people you usually meet that way. You wouldn't have all that without a certain density that allows you to have all that within walking distance or easily reachable via public transport.
    • forgetsusername 10y ago
      >You wouldn't have all that without a certain density that allows you to have all that within walking distance or easily reachable via public transport. Bars, clubs and restaurants flourish in suburban areas, provided they target the appropriate clientele. There is lots of disposable income in suburbia.
      • taurath 10y ago
        Not for people who aren't with the majority culture more often than not. Gay bars don't exist in most suburbs, for example.
        • forgetsusername 10y ago
          >Gay bars don't exist in most suburbs Neither do straight bars. Where I'm from we call them "bars", and they cater to no specific culture.
          • TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
            Additionally, sexual orientation isn't a "culture".
            • taurath 10y ago
              No, but there are cultures that are near-exclusively tied to sexual orientation ("Mainstream-gay culture" for instance). People who are rejected by the culture they grew up with tend to gravitate towards those.
          • taurath 10y ago
            If you're a gay dude in a straight bar, you become quickly aware about how the culture isn't really set up for you, mostly in terms of sheer numbers. Of course one can just go to hang out, but if you're looking for companionship or at least the chance of it, traditionally gays have had to have a place to go where they'd have a better than 5% chance that the guy that is funny/interesting/good looking isn't straight.
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• humanrebar 10y ago
  NYC pushes families out faster than the other ones. The underlying problem, IMO, is that cities are too expensive and inconvenient for certain types of people, including families and the disabled.
  • Ericson2314 10y ago
    It's really sad--high density is actually lowers living expensives and yet there is no serious amounts of cheap high density in this country.
    • norea-armozel 10y ago
      Housing in some cases eats up the savings of having everything withing walking/biking distance. And that's a problem with city hall and not the city itself.
  • nine_k 10y ago
    Living with kids on Manhattan is definitely quite expensive (at least, for me), but you can have a proper city environment in both Queens and Brooklyn, with 20-40 mins commute to basically anywhere on Manhattan (where the jobs are).
• forgetsusername 10y ago
  >More USA cities should be like NYC Have you considered that the suburbs exist in their current form because some people actually want it that way? Not everyone wants to live in a city like NYC, evidenced by the fact that many people avoid high density like the plague.