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You want to know what, I'm going to call you out for this. I don't like people who are politically correct, and if you work for the Government, and truly believ

by gerby 10y ago

You want to know what, I'm going to call you out for this. I don't like people who are politically correct, and if you work for the Government, and truly believe that someone can "work" in another country without actually really working (in my opinion) because they're not making any money, and then have that person be rejected at the border for life (yes this really happens), among other things, for planning to "work" (according to you), for no money, you're part of the problem. This person is not asking for money. Stop trying to loop them into getting themselves in trouble, by admitting anything like that on a public forum, because I see you as potentially a politically-correct government troll collecting intelligence for evil purposes.

ludamad 10y ago
Or this is an innocent question leading up a civil discussion of US law :)
- gerby 10y ago
  I know a person who was helping his girlfriend in the US paint a house, for no money, who got deported for "working" even though there was no money involved, and it destroyed his relationship and now has him banned from the Republic. I have strong feelings about an overbearing government and was speaking my mind. It was also a warning to the person who posted the thread not to tell people anything like that on a public forum, as a public service.
jeremy_wiebe 10y ago
Are you aware that border officials don't care about whether you are receiving compensation? If you are doing work an American could have performed they'll care. Note: I'm Canadian but live close to the border and cross occasionally.
- gerby 10y ago
  Yes, that's why I was suggesting the guy say nothing about his citizenship/visa status if he was indeed planning to help people for free. I'm the type of guy, where even if I'm open-minded about the government (and might even help them with my startup), I'm sticking up the little guy. I would personally never "work" in the US without the right visa, because I am well-aware of the laws and am a very knowledgable man. I'm also reasonable, and the US government is not reasonable sometimes. I see that changing under Donald Trump, because I firmly believe that he will change his mind and end up being socially liberal because of people like Peter Thiel. I'm just doing a public service for this innocent man.
  - ryanx435 10y ago
    what does this have to do with trump?
    - gerby 10y ago
      Previous presidents enabled laws around people being considered "working" when they're not making a dime and it's destroyed families because noones considered changing it yet. I'd like to see Trump change that. Downvote the fuck out of me, do I care? Of course not. I will always stick up for the little guy even when it's unpopular.
      - grzm 10y ago
        You care enough about down-voting to comment on it. Please don't.
      - DrScump 10y ago
        "Previous presidents enabled laws around people being considered "working" when they're not making a dime" Please identify any one such law. Bonus points for describing how a President implements laws on his own.
      - gerby 10y ago
        Look, DrScump, if a Canadian (like the one I know) can get deported for helping his girlfriend who he spent 6 months of the year with (because he legally could without "working" with his visa), with painting a house for free, realistically there are laws and regulations which are an impediment to freedom. Times are changing, and I'm going to be the messenger, so that people like the guy who posted this remain free, even if it's unpopular and could keep me away from getting an investment, or help by performing a public service by telling him why he should say nothing to people about stuff like this if he was planning to help people for free. You can't help people for free and have freedom at the same time, according to past US government administrations, apparently. Also, US Presidents on both sides of the political spectrum have issued "Executive Orders" to bypass both Congress and the Senate and write things into law. They are considered unconstitutional by some, and constitutional by others.

by gerby 10y ago

ludamad 10y ago

Or this is an innocent question leading up a civil discussion of US law :)

gerby 10y ago
I know a person who was helping his girlfriend in the US paint a house, for no money, who got deported for "working" even though there was no money involved, and it destroyed his relationship and now has him banned from the Republic. I have strong feelings about an overbearing government and was speaking my mind. It was also a warning to the person who posted the thread not to tell people anything like that on a public forum, as a public service.

jeremy_wiebe 10y ago

Are you aware that border officials don't care about whether you are receiving compensation? If you are doing work an American could have performed they'll care. Note: I'm Canadian but live close to the border and cross occasionally.

gerby 10y ago
Yes, that's why I was suggesting the guy say nothing about his citizenship/visa status if he was indeed planning to help people for free. I'm the type of guy, where even if I'm open-minded about the government (and might even help them with my startup), I'm sticking up the little guy. I would personally never "work" in the US without the right visa, because I am well-aware of the laws and am a very knowledgable man. I'm also reasonable, and the US government is not reasonable sometimes. I see that changing under Donald Trump, because I firmly believe that he will change his mind and end up being socially liberal because of people like Peter Thiel. I'm just doing a public service for this innocent man.
- ryanx435 10y ago
  what does this have to do with trump?
  - gerby 10y ago
    Previous presidents enabled laws around people being considered "working" when they're not making a dime and it's destroyed families because noones considered changing it yet. I'd like to see Trump change that. Downvote the fuck out of me, do I care? Of course not. I will always stick up for the little guy even when it's unpopular.
    - grzm 10y ago
      You care enough about down-voting to comment on it. Please don't.
    - DrScump 10y ago
      "Previous presidents enabled laws around people being considered "working" when they're not making a dime" Please identify any one such law. Bonus points for describing how a President implements laws on his own.
    - gerby 10y ago
      Look, DrScump, if a Canadian (like the one I know) can get deported for helping his girlfriend who he spent 6 months of the year with (because he legally could without "working" with his visa), with painting a house for free, realistically there are laws and regulations which are an impediment to freedom. Times are changing, and I'm going to be the messenger, so that people like the guy who posted this remain free, even if it's unpopular and could keep me away from getting an investment, or help by performing a public service by telling him why he should say nothing to people about stuff like this if he was planning to help people for free. You can't help people for free and have freedom at the same time, according to past US government administrations, apparently. Also, US Presidents on both sides of the political spectrum have issued "Executive Orders" to bypass both Congress and the Senate and write things into law. They are considered unconstitutional by some, and constitutional by others.