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There's one issue in Trump's current ideas: That he wants to "punish" countries that don't take back illegal immigrants by limiting visa access to their citizen

by pgeorgi 10y ago

There's one issue in Trump's current ideas: That he wants to "punish" countries that don't take back illegal immigrants by limiting visa access to their citizens. So if the Trump administration at some point considers Liechtenstein to be not in compliance with Trump's ideas of handling illegal immigrants, fully compliant H1-Bs from Liechtenstein might get in trouble the next time they need to renew their paperwork.

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bootload 10y ago
""punish" countries that don't take back illegal immigrants by limiting visa access to their citizens." Astute reasoning.
WillPostForFood 10y ago
Is that really an issue? Why would Liechtenstein refuse to take back one of their citizens?
- grzm 10y ago
  I believe Liechtenstein was chosen for rhetorical purposes.
  - WillPostForFood 10y ago
    Yes, fill in whatever country name you want. Most H-1Bs go to India, so use that as an example. Why wouldn't India take back deported citizens?
    - DrScump 10y ago
      I'd say that most countries would be happy to not have to take back their nationals that have committed violent felonies. For a specific example, Vietnam refuses to take back their nationals who entered after 12 July 1995. We recently had a case regarding Viet national in the US illegally who, upon serving that sentence, was released among the US public because he had originally entered the US illegally before that 1995 date, and Vietnam refused to allow him back in. He went on to commit another homicide this year.
    - pgeorgi 10y ago
      The question is not if India takes back deported citizens, but if they do it according to whatever rules the US sets up: - The country is too slow in taking back people, which is entirely possible when the plan to deport 3 million people is implemented. - Especially for "illegal immigrants", it's sometimes hard to pinpoint their actual nationality (and they might not be honest about it for whatever reasons). So they claim to be from India, but the Indian Embassy claims that they're definitely not Indian but given their accent may be from Sri Lanka (and so refuse to take them back). Sri Lanka doesn't want anything to do with that person either. Now what? Neither of these need to happen, but these are issues completely outside the control of law-abiding visa holders that may soon be hanging over their heads.
WillPostForFood 10y ago
Is that really an issue? Why would Liechtenstein refuse to take back one of their citizens?
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Eridrus 10y ago
This seems like an odd way to "punish" countries. Most countries would probably be quite happy that the US was stopping the brain drain from their country.
- mc32 10y ago
  If they did care about such things, they'd institute exit visas, if they wanted. So if they care, they don't care enough to do that. But, since they aren't, and if you are right, I guess Trump will be doing right by most countries, since in your account he'd be deporting their brain drain.

by pgeorgi 10y ago

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bootload 10y ago

""punish" countries that don't take back illegal immigrants by limiting visa access to their citizens." Astute reasoning.

WillPostForFood 10y ago

Is that really an issue? Why would Liechtenstein refuse to take back one of their citizens?

grzm 10y ago
I believe Liechtenstein was chosen for rhetorical purposes.
- WillPostForFood 10y ago
  Yes, fill in whatever country name you want. Most H-1Bs go to India, so use that as an example. Why wouldn't India take back deported citizens?
  - DrScump 10y ago
    I'd say that most countries would be happy to not have to take back their nationals that have committed violent felonies. For a specific example, Vietnam refuses to take back their nationals who entered after 12 July 1995. We recently had a case regarding Viet national in the US illegally who, upon serving that sentence, was released among the US public because he had originally entered the US illegally before that 1995 date, and Vietnam refused to allow him back in. He went on to commit another homicide this year.
  - pgeorgi 10y ago
    The question is not if India takes back deported citizens, but if they do it according to whatever rules the US sets up: - The country is too slow in taking back people, which is entirely possible when the plan to deport 3 million people is implemented. - Especially for "illegal immigrants", it's sometimes hard to pinpoint their actual nationality (and they might not be honest about it for whatever reasons). So they claim to be from India, but the Indian Embassy claims that they're definitely not Indian but given their accent may be from Sri Lanka (and so refuse to take them back). Sri Lanka doesn't want anything to do with that person either. Now what? Neither of these need to happen, but these are issues completely outside the control of law-abiding visa holders that may soon be hanging over their heads.

WillPostForFood 10y ago

Is that really an issue? Why would Liechtenstein refuse to take back one of their citizens?

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Eridrus 10y ago

This seems like an odd way to "punish" countries. Most countries would probably be quite happy that the US was stopping the brain drain from their country.

mc32 10y ago
If they did care about such things, they'd institute exit visas, if they wanted. So if they care, they don't care enough to do that. But, since they aren't, and if you are right, I guess Trump will be doing right by most countries, since in your account he'd be deporting their brain drain.