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I absolutely agree with this premise philosophically, but history speaks against it sometimes. Civil rights are a great example. Minorities living in the south
by zanny 10y ago
I absolutely agree with this premise philosophically, but history speaks against it sometimes.
Civil rights are a great example. Minorities living in the south during Jim Crow were always legally allowed to move north to freer states that wouldn't discriminate against them. But they didn't. Mostly because they were economically and informatively suppressed to the point where they no longer possessed free movement - either they could not afford the cost, or did not know the option existed through intentional disinformation.
The same applies today, for everything from legalized cannabis, to right to die, to bathroom law, to abortion availability and rights, to gay marriage before the supreme court decision. People who are oppressed by hostile local legislation still choose to stay, often because they don't have a choice.
But that is fairly black and white, and reality really isn't. The more interesting, and I think where the liberal argument gets its support more than anything, is in those who have the choice but have to weigh their options. It is an awful situation to be in to decide between gaining rights and leaving everything you know behind. People really resist leaving their homes, in all definitions of the term. There is resistance to leaving your parents house. To leaving your hometown. To leaving your home culture. And that resistance often defeats people who would, objectively, and purely analytically, be better served just leaving.
But that is 20/20 hindsight showing itself. At the time, these people do not know what might happen. They have to weigh the risks. And there is a tremendous natural human aversion to risk. It drives millions of people who would be more prosperous - economically, personally, etc - to stay where they are and not take what they perceive and weigh as unnecessary risk.
A lot of this is a problem of the times. The more opportunity you have in your destination the lower the risk of moving there. Opportunity, in aggregate, is at generational lows today in the US. It suppresses mobility, and that generational lack of opportunity and thus promotion of conservative decisions regarding your own prosperity and rights creates the environment for top-down policy to centralize authority over the whole, to use a wide brush to direct ideology than letting people chose their own. Because in practice, many people cannot make that choice, objectively or as a product of their own uncertainty, and the liberal wing that pushes centralized power to assert their beliefs see that people suffer in conditions they wouldn't need to if they had perfect information and had no emotional baggage holding them back from seizing opportunity.
Distributing power, localizing governance, and making it as democratic as possible in the process is the path to maximal liberty and happiness. But it requires that people actually take advantage of that opportunity. If you build it, how are they to come if they don't know its there?
- hackuser 10y ago> Minorities living in the south during Jim Crow were always legally allowed to move north Rights are not services sold in the free market, matched up by supply and demand. They are universal and inalienable. Whether they move or not, those people were 100% entitled to their rights and to a government that protected them. That's why governments are instituted among men and women.
- slicktux 10y agoIt is important to note that RIGHTS differ from POWER; I as an individual whom has a libertarian philosophy say "limit the federal government, not the people" and I know what that implies; A federal government of which its power is limited to adherence of the US Constitution, Article 1 Section 8; Dr. King fought for a uniformity of African-American Civil Rights through out the united states, so he is a perfect example of the power individuals have when it comes to RIGHTS: Now we get in more gray areas like abortion maybe it can become a right to abort through out the united states, or maybe not, but that is not to say that states cannot deal with the issue; it gets messy when government starts to PAY for such programs through the POWER it has from taxing people that it becomes messy; if that is the case states have the right to both make it a RIGHT and to use its POWER to pay for such programs; now for the federal government, whether it goes through the legislative branch, or not, it becomes UNCONSTITUTIONAL if and only when the POWER to TAX is used to pay for such programs (back to Article 1 Section 8), but if it simply becomes a RIGHT to abort without imposing state sponsored programs (which would be abuse at this point) then it is not unconstitutional. Long live the constitution!