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I'm not sure why these rants end up listing trivialities. Who cares whether it's called Activities, Menu, foobar or is a hamburger icon? It's what it does tha
by rstuart4133 10y ago
I'm not sure why these rants end up listing trivialities. Who cares whether it's called Activities, Menu, foobar or is a hamburger icon? It's what it does that matters, and what it does is pretty neat. Definitely better than Windows 10 attempt at the same thing.
That said, I don't use Gnome3 either. I use the task bar, AFAICT there is no way to have one in Gnome3 so it's a non-starter for me. Given they have a mostly empty bar at the top, I am buggered if I know why they don't provide some taskbar widget. It's worst reason I guess - religious objections.
The other thing I that causes me to curse it very time I use it its insane desire to maximise everything. Maximised everything is exactly what you need on a 6" phone, but gnome3 doesn't work well there. It clearly targeted at desktops. I use a 43" 4K screen. I paid for those pixels - and I want to put every one of them to good use. Maximising a single web page is not a good use.
Which means unlike a conventional window manager which remembers and respects where I put things, I have to reposition everything every fucking time I reboot. And if a window is hidden I can't just click on the task bar, either I have to move to top left corner then click or press a key.
This isn't "getting out of the way". This is shoving the designers idea of good work flow down my throat. If their goal was to get of out of the way of a "power user" (an archaic term, but it accurately described most Linux users) this is vision of an ideal work flow would be the default and they provide the tools to change it.
But those tools are completely absent. That arrogant omission is, gnome3 devs, why half the Linux world view you as mad control freaks.
- gravypod 10y agoMac OSX and iOS didn't win out on UI/UX by ignoring "trivialities"
- digi_owl 10y agoHave they actually won?
- wallacoloo 10y agoFWIW, you can get a taskbar if you use "gnome classic" (which otherwise seems to be identical). It usually comes installed alongside gnome shell. If using GDM, click the wheel on the login screen and select "gnome classic" before entering your password.
- ssivark 10y agoGnome-shell extensions recover a lot of the functionality that was removed from the defaults. Eg, - For a taskbar: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/584/taskbar/ https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/584/taskbar/ - An applications menu: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/ https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/ Agree with all your opinions otherwise.
- digi_owl 10y agoI would not rely on extensions for fixing the mistakes of the Gnome UX wankers, as given half a chance they would scuttle the whole extension system once and for all.
- rstuart4133 10y ago> For a taskbar Thanks, my google foo failed me. So it was there all along. If they've provided some way for me to say what a window's size and position should be rather than having their "everything shall be maximised" shoved down my throat it's worth trying again. When I use Gnome3 now I am struck by how well everything works, albeit for their definition of works. Random things tend to break under other WM's from time to time which is irritating. From what I can tell this is because they depend on gnome's applets to fill in the bits they don't have time to do, but gnome is a moving target. Random breakage is probably going to get worse as the move to Wayland accelerates. Sigh. We do live in interesting times.