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People have for at least 100+ years had access to "an infinite amount of information and knowledge" No one has finished reading a whole library. This sort of

People have for at least 100+ years had access to "an infinite amount of information and knowledge" No one has finished reading a whole library. This sort of attitude is the problem. Trinkets like giving students things don't help. Students need to do work to get ahead. The best way 'so far' is boring repetition.

je42 10y ago
no. repetition should be a result of the child wanting to be better. if commanded to repeat the child will approach the subject to learn with minimalism. if child is influenced to like the subject and repeatition is a result of a drive to get better; it will not minimise the effort but maximise instead.
belorn 10y ago
Repetition work for some problems but not others, and you need to repeat the correct activity. For example, repeating facts rarely help problem solving, while training at unique problem solving do help to be better at problem solving. We also need to be careful, as one of the best way to burn people out is to do repeated activity on something they already mastered and feel impowered and hopeless by being forced to repeat them over and over again.
hkt 10y ago
There is an element of tech company led social engineering going on here: everyone and their dog want to be able to sell their kit as educational if they can. So we get told about the wonders of the internet constantly and schools end up buying iPads instead of books. Your point about libraries stands admirably in light of this. Using different ways to find out information is a skill in itself. That said, nobody is disputing the need to work, only the manner in which that work is carried out.
icantdrive55 10y ago
"The best way 'so far' is boring repetition." Some students. Teach the kid to read through repetition, then let them read what interests them. Teach basic math trough repetition. Then get them counting change. Hell, I would mind teaching kids basic money management in order to teach math. Move on to icremental steps until they get up to algebra. I remember struggling for years memeorizing multiplication tables; to this day I don't know why. I went through route memorization with my classmates, and we all except Lisa Freeburg hated school. (I look back, and what she liked was being singled out by techers as the "Best student". I hated grammer, and high school. I remember, in middle school, we had a math teacher who would let us bring our bikes to class to work on. We needed to learn about gear ratios, and concepts like Torque; while we repaired, maintained our bikes. Mr. Neff was a avid bike rider, and one of the best teachers I had. It was only until I went to college that I found school somewhat interesting. I do remember making up everything I missed in high school in two semesters at a community college. I was different, but the course material was more organized. If I could do it over, I would have gotten a GED, and right into a community college as soon as I could. Plus, I didn't like high school on any level.

je42 10y ago

no. repetition should be a result of the child wanting to be better. if commanded to repeat the child will approach the subject to learn with minimalism. if child is influenced to like the subject and repeatition is a result of a drive to get better; it will not minimise the effort but maximise instead.

belorn 10y ago

Repetition work for some problems but not others, and you need to repeat the correct activity. For example, repeating facts rarely help problem solving, while training at unique problem solving do help to be better at problem solving. We also need to be careful, as one of the best way to burn people out is to do repeated activity on something they already mastered and feel impowered and hopeless by being forced to repeat them over and over again.

hkt 10y ago

There is an element of tech company led social engineering going on here: everyone and their dog want to be able to sell their kit as educational if they can. So we get told about the wonders of the internet constantly and schools end up buying iPads instead of books. Your point about libraries stands admirably in light of this. Using different ways to find out information is a skill in itself. That said, nobody is disputing the need to work, only the manner in which that work is carried out.

icantdrive55 10y ago

"The best way 'so far' is boring repetition." Some students. Teach the kid to read through repetition, then let them read what interests them. Teach basic math trough repetition. Then get them counting change. Hell, I would mind teaching kids basic money management in order to teach math. Move on to icremental steps until they get up to algebra. I remember struggling for years memeorizing multiplication tables; to this day I don't know why. I went through route memorization with my classmates, and we all except Lisa Freeburg hated school. (I look back, and what she liked was being singled out by techers as the "Best student". I hated grammer, and high school. I remember, in middle school, we had a math teacher who would let us bring our bikes to class to work on. We needed to learn about gear ratios, and concepts like Torque; while we repaired, maintained our bikes. Mr. Neff was a avid bike rider, and one of the best teachers I had. It was only until I went to college that I found school somewhat interesting. I do remember making up everything I missed in high school in two semesters at a community college. I was different, but the course material was more organized. If I could do it over, I would have gotten a GED, and right into a community college as soon as I could. Plus, I didn't like high school on any level.