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Thanks for your remarks. We'll definitely have to agree to disagree on Trump, but you and I do have common ground in our belief that access to employment is an

Thanks for your remarks. We'll definitely have to agree to disagree on Trump, but you and I do have common ground in our belief that access to employment is an issue of social justice, and that the H1-B program has been abused and corrupted in a way that has created profoundly unjust outcomes for Americans. The United States already has a program for legal immigration, right? Why do we even need H1-B?

mandeepj 10y ago
> The United States already has a program for legal immigration, right? Why do we even need H1-B? I'm pretty convinced you don't have solid understanding about inner workings of immigration and H1-B. You just have some hatred against this visa. Most of jobs holded by h1-b candidates are temporary and their ranks stand at the very bottom of the food chain. These jobs last not more than few months and in very rare cases 1-2 years. So, they are the first ones to leave the company before the permanent ones. H1-b candidates are very expensive to hire. Although, they do get paid very low. Now, please go and educate five other people so that we can end this BS propaganda.
- biocomputation 10y ago
  >> You just have some hatred against this visa. Jobs are a bedrock social justice issue in the United States. You're free to characterize me remarks however you like, but I'm pretty sure that the fact that 60-80% of H1-B visas are issued to citizens of only two countries is a sign that the program has been hopelessly corrupted.
  - mandeepj 10y ago
    > I'm pretty sure that the fact that 60-80% of H1-B visas are issued to citizens of only two countries is a sign that the program has been hopelessly corrupted. Those two countries are also highly populated in the world so the numbers are proportional
- serge2k 10y ago
  > H1-b candidates are very expensive to hire. Although, they do get paid very low. Huh. I don't feel horribly underpaid. I'm pretty sure I'm making about the same as my American citizen peers.
  - mandeepj 10y ago
    are you a full time employee or a contractor? first layer companies charge around $80 per hour. Contractors get paid around $50.
    - serge2k 10y ago
      I'm a salaried full time employee at a major tech company.
      - mandeepj 10y ago
        Good for you. This is why you don't feel underpaid
jfim 10y ago
> The United States already has a program for legal immigration, right? H-1B is part of the immigration path for many immigrants, since it's a dual intent visa. There's a couple paths to immigrating on a permanent basis to the US, H-1B to green card to citizenship being one of them.

mandeepj 10y ago

> The United States already has a program for legal immigration, right? Why do we even need H1-B? I'm pretty convinced you don't have solid understanding about inner workings of immigration and H1-B. You just have some hatred against this visa. Most of jobs holded by h1-b candidates are temporary and their ranks stand at the very bottom of the food chain. These jobs last not more than few months and in very rare cases 1-2 years. So, they are the first ones to leave the company before the permanent ones. H1-b candidates are very expensive to hire. Although, they do get paid very low. Now, please go and educate five other people so that we can end this BS propaganda.

biocomputation 10y ago
>> You just have some hatred against this visa. Jobs are a bedrock social justice issue in the United States. You're free to characterize me remarks however you like, but I'm pretty sure that the fact that 60-80% of H1-B visas are issued to citizens of only two countries is a sign that the program has been hopelessly corrupted.
- mandeepj 10y ago
  > I'm pretty sure that the fact that 60-80% of H1-B visas are issued to citizens of only two countries is a sign that the program has been hopelessly corrupted. Those two countries are also highly populated in the world so the numbers are proportional
serge2k 10y ago
> H1-b candidates are very expensive to hire. Although, they do get paid very low. Huh. I don't feel horribly underpaid. I'm pretty sure I'm making about the same as my American citizen peers.
- mandeepj 10y ago
  are you a full time employee or a contractor? first layer companies charge around $80 per hour. Contractors get paid around $50.
  - serge2k 10y ago
    I'm a salaried full time employee at a major tech company.
    - mandeepj 10y ago
      Good for you. This is why you don't feel underpaid

jfim 10y ago

> The United States already has a program for legal immigration, right? H-1B is part of the immigration path for many immigrants, since it's a dual intent visa. There's a couple paths to immigrating on a permanent basis to the US, H-1B to green card to citizenship being one of them.