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You are not unaware of ProtonMail [1]. Why are you putting its name in sneer quotes to imply unfamiliarity and insignificance? [1]: https://news.ycombinator.co

by user982 10y ago

You are not unaware of ProtonMail [1]. Why are you putting its name in sneer quotes to imply unfamiliarity and insignificance? [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11305228 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11305228

tptacek 10y ago
I'm not sure what this is supposed to demonstrate. This is a thread that seems mostly to consist of me debating with the Cyph people.
- matt4077 10y ago
  It shows that ProtonMail should be familiar to you, since that's what the thread is about. Please don't answer with a question or we'll be caught in an infinite loop.
  - tptacek 10y ago
    I answered your question: it shows no such thing. I am not, nor am I likely to be a week after this thread, which is about ProtonMail.
Chyzwar 10y ago
ProtonMail focus on security and paid services, free tier is almost useless. Gmail is free service that make money on pushing adds and selling your privacy but provide excellent service. There is no conflict of interest. SEO it is hard to say. They want to compete on "email" and "secure email" keywords it is not going be easy.
- dylz 10y ago
  > Gmail is free service that make money on pushing adds and selling your privacy but provide excellent service. G Suite Email is a paid service that doesn't sell your privacy, doesn't serve ads, and has extremely good service.
  - chappi42 10y ago
    > G Suite Email is a paid service that doesn't sell your privacy G Suite is an american service and will give away your privacy without a proper/open court case when receiving a gag order. This is very much in contrary to PM.
- zapu 10y ago
  Can you elaborate how free tier is almost useless? I'm using ProtonMail as my secondary e-mail and I'm on free tier, and it is pretty useful. Much more useful than FastMail which pretty much forced me to switch to paid plan right away or else I will be unable to send e-mail - all this to combat spammers.

by user982 10y ago

tptacek 10y ago

I'm not sure what this is supposed to demonstrate. This is a thread that seems mostly to consist of me debating with the Cyph people.

matt4077 10y ago
It shows that ProtonMail should be familiar to you, since that's what the thread is about. Please don't answer with a question or we'll be caught in an infinite loop.
- tptacek 10y ago
  I answered your question: it shows no such thing. I am not, nor am I likely to be a week after this thread, which is about ProtonMail.

Chyzwar 10y ago

ProtonMail focus on security and paid services, free tier is almost useless. Gmail is free service that make money on pushing adds and selling your privacy but provide excellent service. There is no conflict of interest. SEO it is hard to say. They want to compete on "email" and "secure email" keywords it is not going be easy.

dylz 10y ago
> Gmail is free service that make money on pushing adds and selling your privacy but provide excellent service. G Suite Email is a paid service that doesn't sell your privacy, doesn't serve ads, and has extremely good service.
- chappi42 10y ago
  > G Suite Email is a paid service that doesn't sell your privacy G Suite is an american service and will give away your privacy without a proper/open court case when receiving a gag order. This is very much in contrary to PM.
zapu 10y ago
Can you elaborate how free tier is almost useless? I'm using ProtonMail as my secondary e-mail and I'm on free tier, and it is pretty useful. Much more useful than FastMail which pretty much forced me to switch to paid plan right away or else I will be unable to send e-mail - all this to combat spammers.