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> how people use male pronouns when talking about engineers In French, if there are 99 women and 1 man, you use the masculine plural. Some languages are sexis
by masondixon 10y ago
> how people use male pronouns when talking about engineers
In French, if there are 99 women and 1 man, you use the masculine plural.
Some languages are sexist, but it ain't a big deal.
> that it would be very atypical for them to be
It currently is atypical for them to be. When there are more, it won't be atypical.
> This pushes women out of STEM fields slowly but surely over time
But do you really think this is about pronouns? I think there are other issues like women making choices to go into other fields for other reasons. There are innate psychological differences between men and women (I'm not even sure I am allowed to say this let alone go near this topic in PC-world).
Open-source programming is a place where your gender doesn't matter at all. No one ever needs to know if you are female if you don't want them to.
Its a very objective field. If I do a code review - I don't ever need to know your gender, and I can judge the quality of your code.
I mean if you are a gun female coder, and someone says "women are scared away by pronouns and are being pushed out", what are you going to think of this?
You don't want a world of male programmers thinking that a women got a job because of some diversity hire.
If I were a male entering a female dominated industry, the thought of telling them to change the she's to they's makes me a little ill.
I'd like to see a survey on women complaining about this.
If there was a quality survey of women saying their top ranked issue preventing them from entering STEM was gendered pronouns, then this would absolutely be the biggest priority!
I think there are bigger issues and this is just a bike-shedding thing that is easy for SV white knights to make themselves feel good over.
> the truth is that in most of America you are still much more likely to be harassed for being female, non-heterosexual, non-caucasian, etc.
100% agree. But the nitpicking over pronouns enrages people, and distracts from the more serious cases of outright and blatant sexism. Everyone is crying wolf these days, and it is driving sexism underground.
I know it sucks real bad, but you have to bring people along with you to change their minds. This is why Trump won.