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How can you say that when there are numerous examples of assault and discrimination? From the very obvious assaults by frat boys to the fact that if a couple wa

by amykyta 10y ago

How can you say that when there are numerous examples of assault and discrimination? From the very obvious assaults by frat boys to the fact that if a couple wants to have a child the woman is the one who is forced to take a career hit. I don't buy the retort that a woman should choose whether she wants to pursue a career in corporate law or to have a child, that consideration never enters the picture for a man. Just because we're no longer telling Sally that she's bad at math because she's a girl doesn't mean we're done. You may consider yourself an egalitarian but you can't be blind to the wider state of things. Have you considered that you may have a similar blindspot for other types of discrimination?

masondixon 10y ago
> numerous examples of assault and discrimination Yes there is no denying it that it happens. But its not a "rape culture" and is not as common as people make it out to be. A rape accusation will utterly destroy someones life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattress_Performance_(Carry_Th... But yes there are the terrible instances that occur: https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-let... > to the fact that if a couple wants to have a child the woman is the one who is forced to take a career hit This is non-partisan, and is not a social justice issue, its a public policy issue. Both Clinton and Trump have plans: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comparing-donald-trump-hillary-clintons-child-care-policies/story?id=42081999 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comparing-donald-trump-hillar... > I don't buy the retort that a woman should choose whether she wants to pursue a career in corporate law or to have a child, that consideration never enters the picture for a man. How do you change it though? This is simply a discussion for the couple to have. > You may consider yourself an egalitarian but you can't be blind to the wider state of things. Have you considered that you may have a similar blindspot for other types of discrimination? I am aware of it yes. I read a lot - but it comes across as overly-sensitive and I believe sensitivities are learned not innate. And a lot of people just want to pick a fight because they are angry. The third-wave in your face blogging feminism is the wrong approach. It feels more like a way to gain power and influence than to actually make things better. It just drives discrimination underground.
- gizmo 10y ago
  Your claim that a rape accusation will utterly ruin a person's life, right after Trump has become president-elect, is staggeringly imperceptive given that he has been accused of rape not once but thrice and had rape charges in pre-trial stages during his campaign!

by amykyta 10y ago

masondixon 10y ago

> numerous examples of assault and discrimination Yes there is no denying it that it happens. But its not a "rape culture" and is not as common as people make it out to be. A rape accusation will utterly destroy someones life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattress_Performance_(Carry_Th... But yes there are the terrible instances that occur: https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-let... > to the fact that if a couple wants to have a child the woman is the one who is forced to take a career hit This is non-partisan, and is not a social justice issue, its a public policy issue. Both Clinton and Trump have plans: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comparing-donald-trump-hillary-clintons-child-care-policies/story?id=42081999 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comparing-donald-trump-hillar... > I don't buy the retort that a woman should choose whether she wants to pursue a career in corporate law or to have a child, that consideration never enters the picture for a man. How do you change it though? This is simply a discussion for the couple to have. > You may consider yourself an egalitarian but you can't be blind to the wider state of things. Have you considered that you may have a similar blindspot for other types of discrimination? I am aware of it yes. I read a lot - but it comes across as overly-sensitive and I believe sensitivities are learned not innate. And a lot of people just want to pick a fight because they are angry. The third-wave in your face blogging feminism is the wrong approach. It feels more like a way to gain power and influence than to actually make things better. It just drives discrimination underground.

gizmo 10y ago
Your claim that a rape accusation will utterly ruin a person's life, right after Trump has become president-elect, is staggeringly imperceptive given that he has been accused of rape not once but thrice and had rape charges in pre-trial stages during his campaign!