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[1] is from 1948, but [2] is definitely worth looking into. 83 ballots isn't widespread fraud unless it's happening a lot, everywhere. Maybe it is! But it would
by iainmerrick 10y ago
[1] is from 1948, but [2] is definitely worth looking into. 83 ballots isn't widespread fraud unless it's happening a lot, everywhere. Maybe it is! But it would require a massive and very disciplined conspiracy working at many levels across the country. To me, the burden of proof lies on anyone claiming there is such a conspiracy.
(Trump complained of a vote-rigging conspiracy, of course, but unsurprisingly he shut up once he actually won. He changes his position too often to be credible.)
- nickff 10y agoI am not saying there is a vast voter-fraud conspiracy, and those two links are not meant to be an exhaustive list; I included the Johnson link because it is so famous, and the more recent link to show that the phenomenon seems to persist. If there is widespread voter fraud, I would guess that it exists as a (large) number of relatively small operations, probably emanating from 'get-out-the-vote' campaigns. I am not a 'team player' for any party, and take all allegations by candidates with a heaping mound of salt.
- iainmerrick 10y agoI didn't mean to imply you had an agenda, sorry! Trump is just the most recent example of someone making vote-rigging claims. As people have commented elsewhere in this discussion, an online voting system would probably be more vulnerable to fraud, given what we know of the methods and capabilities of the NSA and other organisations. I agree that there's probably petty fraud going on here and there but I don't see the need for sweeping and risky changes to try to fix it.