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The Real Lesson in Grubhub CEO Telling Trump Supporters to Resign

36 points by kshatrea 10y ago

vishalzone2002 10y ago
Again such a wrong headline. He did not say that at all. He pointed out specific ideas of Trump that he was against and those are the ones that any sane person would be against. Clickbait titles can be very harmful.
- itchyouch 10y ago
  Unfortunately, clickbait titles are what people have rallied under.
- pcunite 10y ago
  He quotes from the email. Was this not true? If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here.
  - tellitasitis 10y ago
    Because, apparently it is not hate or malice when the left do it.
  - pcunite 10y ago
    Update, here is a link to the original memo. It does in fact contain this phrase. http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-details/2016/Inclusion-and-Tolerance-in-the-Workplace/default.aspx http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-...
    - urda 10y ago
      Grubhub has lost my business today because of this.
  - asbromberg 10y ago
    Read the full email (second half of the linked page): http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-details/2016/Inclusion-and-Tolerance-in-the-Workplace/default.aspx http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-...
  - ethanbond 10y ago
    "this statement" = "As we all try to understand what this vote means to us, I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States." Basically, if you don't feel like you can be part of the "everyone here at Gruhub [who] will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life... in the United States," you don't belong. Nothing about the act of supporting Trump, per se.
    - Merem 10y ago
      What he says at the core is perfectly fine. His mistake is politicizing the message when there is no need for that and hinting at a connection between Trump becoming president and that the people who voted for him likely don't support what is written in the e-mail. From an outsider's perspective: The reason for that might stem from the fact that this election was fought like a war, as in, they demonized the enemy. This was especially strong when it came to Trump. So now that the election/war is over, some people can't go back to view the "other" side in a rational way. For them, that side is still exactly everything the media told them it is and I believe that is the case here.
  - ant6n 10y ago
    This statement being "I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States" I wonder what happens if somebody tells him "I voted for Trump, and now I'm scared and feel personally exposed". I don't know how to view this. Clearly Matt wants to protect his employees from bigotry to not make them feel scared. But now the Trump supporters may feel scared. In this company, are they turning from a perceived oppressed minority into an actual one? It's all very paradox-head-explosiony, and there aren't good answers.
  - athenot 10y ago
    The statement is well put. It is differentiating between the behavior and the person. Doing some quick reading comprehension stuff: - The demeaning, insulting and ridiculing BEHAVIOR has no place. - I reject the POLITICS of Donald Trump - shield our community from this MOVEMENT (i.e. the aforementioned politics) He clearly laid out values of Mr. Trump then proceeds to explain how espousing them would result in a bad fit for his company. More specifically, here's what cannot be derived from his email: - "If you VOTED for Trump you're fired." As hard as it is for me to understand, I do realize one may have other reasons why he/she voted for Trump. - "If you support Trump, you're fired." This one is murky but one may support some of his actions while rejecting others.
    - mzw_mzw 10y ago
      Do you really think that someone who voted for Trump, and now fears for their employment in the context of a hard-left industry and hometown full of people freaking out and making wild threats, is going to carefully parse the letter in this fashion and decide they have nothing to worry about? Imagine you got this letter from your boss. Would you then happily stroll up to him at the water cooler and tell him how proud you were to vote for Donald Trump on Tuesday?
    - vishalzone2002 10y ago
      Thanks for wording this :
- zajd 10y ago
  Reasonable people can read between the lines.
- boona 10y ago
  > those are the ones that any sane person would be against That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power. That aside, I'm glad to see that some leftists are starting to come around to the idea that through trying to fight bigotry, they themselves have become the bigots. I'm not saying Donald Trump is right when it comes to issues of nationalism and immigration, but very intelligent and well meaning people exists on both sides of that debate. I'm afraid that if we don't start a dialog soon, Trump will seem like a walk in the park compared to what extremist movement will come up next.
  - sheraz 10y ago
    This. It's not about trump, it rather what comes after trump.
  - pmoriarty 10y ago
    "That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power." As opposed to the kind of elitism that Trump himself embodies in every pore, which is just fine and dandy.
  - ant6n 10y ago
    > That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power ... I'm afraid that if we don't start a dialog soon ...
  - Latty 10y ago
    I don't think it's elitism, it's people simply living in a different world. If you have been left-leaning, you have been living in a world where Trump's policies are scary, racist stuff that belongs way in the past. If you have been right-leaning, you have been living in a world where white people have been under attack for the last x years, and Trump is offering respite. The left just didn't realise the extent of people that believed that lie. It's not elitist, it's just huge surprise - people are saying things and supporting things we thought were sorted years ago. If a candidate came out and supported reintroducing slavery, and they got half of the vote, people would be understandably surprised. This is the light version of that.
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tellitasitis 10y ago
At this point, every good Grubhub employee should be looking at outside opportunities - hard to continue working there with such a loose cannon CEO.
perseusprime11 10y ago
"If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here" This is elitist and exactly why we are here today. The country right now needs all of us to be at our best and show inclusiveness.
- woofyman 10y ago
  That needs to start with Trump as he picks rabidly anti-gay Ken Blackwell to his transition team. http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1596184 http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1596184
- jameshart 10y ago
  The statement which he was asking people to agree with being: "to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States" That seems pretty inclusive to me. I have no idea in what way it is 'elitist'.
  - internaut 10y ago
    > will work to shield our community from this movement as best as I can. This is the statement that upon rereading his email, troubles me the most. The rest of it with the Principal of Charity could be taken more favourably. In the context he can only mean shielding 'his community' from Trump supporters. What other 'movement' could he be talking about? So it follows that his community does not contain Trump supporters. That's the presumption. I started to defend him in an earlier thread, but now I wished I had not after I parsed that line properly. I'm ashamed to see a fellow Irishman being so blockheaded.
- sago 10y ago
  It depends what 'this statement' is, surely. For many, many values of 'this', that is totally reasonable. There are ideas that I and my company hold to be sacred, that anyone wanting to challenge needs to find another job. Accepting intolerance isn't a mark of tolerance.
ntdb 10y ago
What Matt Maloney (Grubhub CEO) said was: "I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States. If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here." That's not an statement against supporting Donald Trump, that's a demand for the protection of human dignity and opportunity. Perhaps the author assumes that there are no Trump supporters who support dignity and opportunity for all, an absolutely false generalization.
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- mistermann 10y ago
  Respectfully, I think you are being intellectually dishonest: "Full Email Text: SUBJECT: So... that happened... what's next? I'm still trying to reconcile my own worldview with the overwhelming message that was delivered last night. Clearly there are a lot of people angry and scared as the antithesis of every modern presidential candidate won and will be our next president. While demeaning, insulting and ridiculing minorities, immigrants and the physically/mentally disabled worked for Mr. Trump, I want to be clear that this behavior - and these views, have no place at Grubhub. Had he worked here, many of his comments would have resulted in his immediate termination. We have worked for years cultivating a culture of support and inclusiveness. I firmly believe that we must bring together different perspectives to continue innovating - including all genders, races, ethnicities and sexual, cultural or ideological preferences. We are better, faster and stronger together. Further I absolutely reject the nationalist, anti-immigrant and hateful politics of Donald Trump and will work to shield our community from this movement as best as I can. As we all try to understand what this vote means to us, I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States. If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here. We do not tolerate hateful attitudes on our team.I want to repeat what Hillary said this morning, that the new administration deserves our open minds and a chance to lead, but never stop believing that the fight for what's right is worth it. Stay strong, Matt" Cherry pick and twist however you want but anyone with common sense who is paying attention knows exactly what this means.
jkern 10y ago
"Most Americans now say they know the media have exaggerated Trump’s rhetoric and flaws (though I’m not defending him here)"... huh?
- sago 10y ago
  A recent wise comment said "the left takes Trump literally, but not seriously, his supporters take him seriously but not literally." It is indeed possible that the media exaggerated his views by reporting his rhetoric in isolation to his broader message. This is the political sport of our age. Atomise someone's speech and treat it as self-evident evil. Can anyone say "different public and private positions"?
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Latty 10y ago
Clearly, this email was a terrible idea. People have a right to their own politics without it affecting their career. That being said, the statement sounds terrible when summarised like this. The email was (to my eyes) clearly intended as a message of support to those who felt threatened by Trump's policies. By pairing it with Trump's politics specifically, it is turned into a threat to those who support Trump. Whether the author did this intentionally is pretty irrelevant, he's going to end up threatening those people just as he tried to defend others against being threatened. While he technically didn't say explicitly what the title claims, it's clearly implied (intentionally or not). If instead, the email had decried actual issues that will (in my opinion) come from the Trump presidency, then that would have been reasonable. This is, as always, the hard question of how far we have to tolerate intolerance. Generally we draw the line at a call to action, and supporting a candidate definitely doesn't cross that line.
- ant6n 10y ago
  > If instead, the email had decried actual issues that will (in my opinion) come from the Trump presidency, then that would have been reasonable. "I absolutely reject the nationalist, anti-immigrant and hateful politics of Donald Trump" While probably not a good idea (especially with Trump supporters having a bit of a chip on their shoulder), the e-mail did make it clear what behavior he's not going to accept at his work place.
  - Latty 10y ago
    My view is that plenty of Trump's support is white people who believe they are under attack - there has been a push for some time that every gain for the rights of minorities comes at the cost of the majority. Those people are falling for a racist lie, and telling them 'If you support this candidate, get out.' isn't going to help that, just push them further to feel that lie is true, and entrench their support. Instead, if the email had explained the harm those policies might do to colleagues, and how the company aims to defend those people... maybe views get changed. Honestly, I imagine this email is an angry mistake, intended to provide help to those who will suffer support, however, it ends up being an unintended threat. It's hard to say without a magical detector for intent, but the damage is done.
geofft 10y ago
> Upon regaining composure after reading the email today, I tried to short the stock. Too late. It had already dropped by over 4% — $120 million of shareholder value already incinerated. > Didn’t he see the firestorm coming? Like I said from my experience, Matt has been a good steward of shareholder money. How could he do something this stupid? I don’t think Matt would have knowingly risked the damage done for political principle. It's a weird world in which it's unthinkable that you might be willing to risk shareholder value for political principle.
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myf01d 10y ago
Alright, he made a gamble here, he wrote this so leftists and liberals make it viral and the company becomes a champion for diversity and other companies join him and the stock goes up, aaaand he was wrong.
spydum 10y ago
As others posted, it seems to me care wasn't taken to be super clear on what was slightly ambiguous email about telling people to resign. That is a huge deal from a CEO. That line should have been left out. CEO should not be so careless with communication.
jondubois 10y ago
The email just shows what a sheep he is for regurgitating everything the media has said about Trump without actually taking a second to think about it. Trump's wife is an immigrant! Can there be any better proof that Trump doesn't hate immigrants? The xenophobia argument was bullshit made up by the media to manipulate people to vote for Hillary and this CEO bought it hook line and sinker. Trump media also told a lot of bullshit - I'm not trying to target Hillary supporters specifically. I would say the same thing if a CEO was trying to tell his employees that Hillary should be 'locked up' if Trump had lost - To me it would be equally stupid media-vomit. It's just that when I see how much of a 'follower' (of the media) these supposed 'leaders' can be, it's depressing.
rockmeamedee 10y ago
This is kind of weird logic to me. I see the letter as a good thing. He thinks the letter is bad because Grubhub's market cap dropped $120M? To me this CEO is commendable. He stands for protecting people from a dangerous and inept man, despite the monetary (and probably social capital) costs. If dumbass VCs don't see a threat in Trump's behavior and want to shun this guy, he's ok with that. The author of this article is saying "Don't say bad things about the fascists, you'll lose money". I strongly disagree. Do everything you can to keep people, at-risk communities, and the planet safe during this presidency. Someone else wrote it better on twitter today: "The Holocaust Museum in DC features IBM in its permanent exhibition. Our industry can choose its role in history." (by @marcprecipice) If you weren't previously aware of the fact that IBM used its technology to facilitate the Holocaust, you can read about it here: http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/ http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/
- mzw_mzw 10y ago
  Whoa, whoa, whoa. We've been assured by everyone else on this topic that the CEO wasn't saying anything bad about Trump and his supporters, no how, no way, why the very idea is absurd. And now you're saying that yup, he was, and it's great? Who's right here?

36 points by kshatrea 10y ago

vishalzone2002 10y ago

Again such a wrong headline. He did not say that at all. He pointed out specific ideas of Trump that he was against and those are the ones that any sane person would be against. Clickbait titles can be very harmful.

itchyouch 10y ago
Unfortunately, clickbait titles are what people have rallied under.
pcunite 10y ago
He quotes from the email. Was this not true? If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here.
- tellitasitis 10y ago
  Because, apparently it is not hate or malice when the left do it.
- pcunite 10y ago
  Update, here is a link to the original memo. It does in fact contain this phrase. http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-details/2016/Inclusion-and-Tolerance-in-the-Workplace/default.aspx http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-...
  - urda 10y ago
    Grubhub has lost my business today because of this.
- asbromberg 10y ago
  Read the full email (second half of the linked page): http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-details/2016/Inclusion-and-Tolerance-in-the-Workplace/default.aspx http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-...
- ethanbond 10y ago
  "this statement" = "As we all try to understand what this vote means to us, I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States." Basically, if you don't feel like you can be part of the "everyone here at Gruhub [who] will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life... in the United States," you don't belong. Nothing about the act of supporting Trump, per se.
  - Merem 10y ago
    What he says at the core is perfectly fine. His mistake is politicizing the message when there is no need for that and hinting at a connection between Trump becoming president and that the people who voted for him likely don't support what is written in the e-mail. From an outsider's perspective: The reason for that might stem from the fact that this election was fought like a war, as in, they demonized the enemy. This was especially strong when it came to Trump. So now that the election/war is over, some people can't go back to view the "other" side in a rational way. For them, that side is still exactly everything the media told them it is and I believe that is the case here.
- ant6n 10y ago
  This statement being "I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States" I wonder what happens if somebody tells him "I voted for Trump, and now I'm scared and feel personally exposed". I don't know how to view this. Clearly Matt wants to protect his employees from bigotry to not make them feel scared. But now the Trump supporters may feel scared. In this company, are they turning from a perceived oppressed minority into an actual one? It's all very paradox-head-explosiony, and there aren't good answers.
- athenot 10y ago
  The statement is well put. It is differentiating between the behavior and the person. Doing some quick reading comprehension stuff: - The demeaning, insulting and ridiculing BEHAVIOR has no place. - I reject the POLITICS of Donald Trump - shield our community from this MOVEMENT (i.e. the aforementioned politics) He clearly laid out values of Mr. Trump then proceeds to explain how espousing them would result in a bad fit for his company. More specifically, here's what cannot be derived from his email: - "If you VOTED for Trump you're fired." As hard as it is for me to understand, I do realize one may have other reasons why he/she voted for Trump. - "If you support Trump, you're fired." This one is murky but one may support some of his actions while rejecting others.
  - mzw_mzw 10y ago
    Do you really think that someone who voted for Trump, and now fears for their employment in the context of a hard-left industry and hometown full of people freaking out and making wild threats, is going to carefully parse the letter in this fashion and decide they have nothing to worry about? Imagine you got this letter from your boss. Would you then happily stroll up to him at the water cooler and tell him how proud you were to vote for Donald Trump on Tuesday?
  - vishalzone2002 10y ago
    Thanks for wording this :
zajd 10y ago
Reasonable people can read between the lines.
boona 10y ago
> those are the ones that any sane person would be against That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power. That aside, I'm glad to see that some leftists are starting to come around to the idea that through trying to fight bigotry, they themselves have become the bigots. I'm not saying Donald Trump is right when it comes to issues of nationalism and immigration, but very intelligent and well meaning people exists on both sides of that debate. I'm afraid that if we don't start a dialog soon, Trump will seem like a walk in the park compared to what extremist movement will come up next.
- sheraz 10y ago
  This. It's not about trump, it rather what comes after trump.
- pmoriarty 10y ago
  "That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power." As opposed to the kind of elitism that Trump himself embodies in every pore, which is just fine and dandy.
- ant6n 10y ago
  > That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power ... I'm afraid that if we don't start a dialog soon ...
- Latty 10y ago
  I don't think it's elitism, it's people simply living in a different world. If you have been left-leaning, you have been living in a world where Trump's policies are scary, racist stuff that belongs way in the past. If you have been right-leaning, you have been living in a world where white people have been under attack for the last x years, and Trump is offering respite. The left just didn't realise the extent of people that believed that lie. It's not elitist, it's just huge surprise - people are saying things and supporting things we thought were sorted years ago. If a candidate came out and supported reintroducing slavery, and they got half of the vote, people would be understandably surprised. This is the light version of that.
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tellitasitis 10y ago

At this point, every good Grubhub employee should be looking at outside opportunities - hard to continue working there with such a loose cannon CEO.

perseusprime11 10y ago

"If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here" This is elitist and exactly why we are here today. The country right now needs all of us to be at our best and show inclusiveness.

woofyman 10y ago
That needs to start with Trump as he picks rabidly anti-gay Ken Blackwell to his transition team. http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1596184 http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1596184
jameshart 10y ago
The statement which he was asking people to agree with being: "to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States" That seems pretty inclusive to me. I have no idea in what way it is 'elitist'.
- internaut 10y ago
  > will work to shield our community from this movement as best as I can. This is the statement that upon rereading his email, troubles me the most. The rest of it with the Principal of Charity could be taken more favourably. In the context he can only mean shielding 'his community' from Trump supporters. What other 'movement' could he be talking about? So it follows that his community does not contain Trump supporters. That's the presumption. I started to defend him in an earlier thread, but now I wished I had not after I parsed that line properly. I'm ashamed to see a fellow Irishman being so blockheaded.
sago 10y ago
It depends what 'this statement' is, surely. For many, many values of 'this', that is totally reasonable. There are ideas that I and my company hold to be sacred, that anyone wanting to challenge needs to find another job. Accepting intolerance isn't a mark of tolerance.

ntdb 10y ago

What Matt Maloney (Grubhub CEO) said was: "I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States. If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here." That's not an statement against supporting Donald Trump, that's a demand for the protection of human dignity and opportunity. Perhaps the author assumes that there are no Trump supporters who support dignity and opportunity for all, an absolutely false generalization.

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mistermann 10y ago
Respectfully, I think you are being intellectually dishonest: "Full Email Text: SUBJECT: So... that happened... what's next? I'm still trying to reconcile my own worldview with the overwhelming message that was delivered last night. Clearly there are a lot of people angry and scared as the antithesis of every modern presidential candidate won and will be our next president. While demeaning, insulting and ridiculing minorities, immigrants and the physically/mentally disabled worked for Mr. Trump, I want to be clear that this behavior - and these views, have no place at Grubhub. Had he worked here, many of his comments would have resulted in his immediate termination. We have worked for years cultivating a culture of support and inclusiveness. I firmly believe that we must bring together different perspectives to continue innovating - including all genders, races, ethnicities and sexual, cultural or ideological preferences. We are better, faster and stronger together. Further I absolutely reject the nationalist, anti-immigrant and hateful politics of Donald Trump and will work to shield our community from this movement as best as I can. As we all try to understand what this vote means to us, I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States. If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here. We do not tolerate hateful attitudes on our team.I want to repeat what Hillary said this morning, that the new administration deserves our open minds and a chance to lead, but never stop believing that the fight for what's right is worth it. Stay strong, Matt" Cherry pick and twist however you want but anyone with common sense who is paying attention knows exactly what this means.

jkern 10y ago

"Most Americans now say they know the media have exaggerated Trump’s rhetoric and flaws (though I’m not defending him here)"... huh?

sago 10y ago
A recent wise comment said "the left takes Trump literally, but not seriously, his supporters take him seriously but not literally." It is indeed possible that the media exaggerated his views by reporting his rhetoric in isolation to his broader message. This is the political sport of our age. Atomise someone's speech and treat it as self-evident evil. Can anyone say "different public and private positions"?

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Latty 10y ago

Clearly, this email was a terrible idea. People have a right to their own politics without it affecting their career. That being said, the statement sounds terrible when summarised like this. The email was (to my eyes) clearly intended as a message of support to those who felt threatened by Trump's policies. By pairing it with Trump's politics specifically, it is turned into a threat to those who support Trump. Whether the author did this intentionally is pretty irrelevant, he's going to end up threatening those people just as he tried to defend others against being threatened. While he technically didn't say explicitly what the title claims, it's clearly implied (intentionally or not). If instead, the email had decried actual issues that will (in my opinion) come from the Trump presidency, then that would have been reasonable. This is, as always, the hard question of how far we have to tolerate intolerance. Generally we draw the line at a call to action, and supporting a candidate definitely doesn't cross that line.

ant6n 10y ago
> If instead, the email had decried actual issues that will (in my opinion) come from the Trump presidency, then that would have been reasonable. "I absolutely reject the nationalist, anti-immigrant and hateful politics of Donald Trump" While probably not a good idea (especially with Trump supporters having a bit of a chip on their shoulder), the e-mail did make it clear what behavior he's not going to accept at his work place.
- Latty 10y ago
  My view is that plenty of Trump's support is white people who believe they are under attack - there has been a push for some time that every gain for the rights of minorities comes at the cost of the majority. Those people are falling for a racist lie, and telling them 'If you support this candidate, get out.' isn't going to help that, just push them further to feel that lie is true, and entrench their support. Instead, if the email had explained the harm those policies might do to colleagues, and how the company aims to defend those people... maybe views get changed. Honestly, I imagine this email is an angry mistake, intended to provide help to those who will suffer support, however, it ends up being an unintended threat. It's hard to say without a magical detector for intent, but the damage is done.

geofft 10y ago

> Upon regaining composure after reading the email today, I tried to short the stock. Too late. It had already dropped by over 4% — $120 million of shareholder value already incinerated. > Didn’t he see the firestorm coming? Like I said from my experience, Matt has been a good steward of shareholder money. How could he do something this stupid? I don’t think Matt would have knowingly risked the damage done for political principle. It's a weird world in which it's unthinkable that you might be willing to risk shareholder value for political principle.

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myf01d 10y ago

Alright, he made a gamble here, he wrote this so leftists and liberals make it viral and the company becomes a champion for diversity and other companies join him and the stock goes up, aaaand he was wrong.

spydum 10y ago

As others posted, it seems to me care wasn't taken to be super clear on what was slightly ambiguous email about telling people to resign. That is a huge deal from a CEO. That line should have been left out. CEO should not be so careless with communication.

jondubois 10y ago

The email just shows what a sheep he is for regurgitating everything the media has said about Trump without actually taking a second to think about it. Trump's wife is an immigrant! Can there be any better proof that Trump doesn't hate immigrants? The xenophobia argument was bullshit made up by the media to manipulate people to vote for Hillary and this CEO bought it hook line and sinker. Trump media also told a lot of bullshit - I'm not trying to target Hillary supporters specifically. I would say the same thing if a CEO was trying to tell his employees that Hillary should be 'locked up' if Trump had lost - To me it would be equally stupid media-vomit. It's just that when I see how much of a 'follower' (of the media) these supposed 'leaders' can be, it's depressing.

rockmeamedee 10y ago

This is kind of weird logic to me. I see the letter as a good thing. He thinks the letter is bad because Grubhub's market cap dropped $120M? To me this CEO is commendable. He stands for protecting people from a dangerous and inept man, despite the monetary (and probably social capital) costs. If dumbass VCs don't see a threat in Trump's behavior and want to shun this guy, he's ok with that. The author of this article is saying "Don't say bad things about the fascists, you'll lose money". I strongly disagree. Do everything you can to keep people, at-risk communities, and the planet safe during this presidency. Someone else wrote it better on twitter today: "The Holocaust Museum in DC features IBM in its permanent exhibition. Our industry can choose its role in history." (by @marcprecipice) If you weren't previously aware of the fact that IBM used its technology to facilitate the Holocaust, you can read about it here: http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/ http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

mzw_mzw 10y ago
Whoa, whoa, whoa. We've been assured by everyone else on this topic that the CEO wasn't saying anything bad about Trump and his supporters, no how, no way, why the very idea is absurd. And now you're saying that yup, he was, and it's great? Who's right here?