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I think maybe your argument about consumers also being producers made more sense in the pre internet age when distribution of the content was very hard. I would

• openasocket 10y ago
  Look at the affidavit: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3216737-Freedom-Hosting-NIT-Affidavit.html#document/p91/a327945 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3216737-Freedom-Host... I only skimmed, but at least 1 of the Websites required users to upload their own CP, to be approved by the admins, before they could download any.
  • arthulia 10y ago
    You don't think they just found it elsewhere on the internet?
    • mikey_p 10y ago
      Regardless, this is generating demand for child porn.
    • SixSigma 10y ago
      I have no special insight but admins of a CP server are likely to have access to considerable collections. They surely would have all the easiest CP to find already.
  • Cyph0n 10y ago
    Uploading != producing
    • dogma1138 10y ago
      But if the upload requires it to be new or at least unique to the site it usually does means production either directly or a contracted one. If not everyone would upload the same content pretty much.
      • Cyph0n 10y ago
        My assumption is that production is concentrated to a small inner "scene", just like the warez scene. If you have enough connections and perhaps money, you could get the material from the source, and then use that to gain access to other sites that require contributions, which is analogous to how elite private torrent trackers work. So again, uploading does not imply production capability, at least the way I see it.
        • dogma1138 10y ago
          The scene is already fairly small, production is more or less adhoc these days, underaged prostitution is still very much alive these days even in western countries, not to mention places like Mexico, Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines. The difference is that with the warez scene there is no production effectively, since they just copy things which are constantly produced by industry, here there isn't an industry to back it up other than the one within the community. Additionally with how laws are structured in many places selling CP is a worse offense than possession, hence the trading scene is an easy way to legally cover your ass to get a reduced sentence or no sentence at all. But this also means that there is either direct production or contracting for this material from developing nations since otherwise everyone would be trading the same thing, about 9-10 years ago I've volunteered with the police and we were tracking sharing and downloading back then over P2P. Once there was sufficient evidence they would flag the person and check their travel history, quite a few of them had traveled back then often (2-3 times a year or more) to either the Balkans/Central Europe and Asia and they were going there to effectively purchase or produce it for self consumption and trade. Sadly there are way to many places where you can have sex with a child for money, and not for a lot of it, child prostitution in Mexico even in border towns it cheaper than normal street prostitution in the US not to mention higher end call girls. Get a laptop or a camera and for a few 100$ you can produce quite a bit of content.
          • Cyph0n 10y ago
            Thanks for the insight. I'm absolutely disgusted about the fact that child prostitution is easily accessible. Are you aware of ways a software developer could help in the war against CP, especially if indirectly? (I don't have the heart for the "real" stuff)
    • sosborn 10y ago
      They aren't mutually exclusive though.