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> It's quite similar to the post-Brexit discussions, how pro-Bexit people are stupid, etc. Except I didn't call voters stupid, I simply summarized what Trump s
by rootlocus 10y ago
> It's quite similar to the post-Brexit discussions, how pro-Bexit people are stupid, etc.
Except I didn't call voters stupid, I simply summarized what Trump said.
> We can talk about [...] It would probably be fine [...] But he's the President-elect.
Of course we can talk about it. We have freedom of speech (wasn't this the original point?). You mean to tell me he can say whatever he wants but I can't call him out because he's the president-elect?
I get it that everyone whats to prevent things from going worse but we shouldn't close our eyes or accept whatever Trump happens to say or do out of fear. He shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants because "we must be united". He should be called out and, if necessary held accountable.
- gedrap 10y agoTrump those things was definitely not acceptable. But we can't undo the election or ignore the results of it simply because we don't find it acceptable. A very large share of American population were happy enough to vote for him. This, Brexit, raise to popularity of some specific parties in Europe should be a huge wake up call. And if we keep the attitude of 'racists voted him! He's a liar!' then it's just the beginning.
- return0 10y agoWe should be very worried about the prospect of nationalist parties in europe. Unlike the US, nationalism in europe is deadly, very deadly. We should have a frank discussion about immigration and define our red lines in order to weaken this wave.
- masondixon 10y agoThe thing is, these dangerous elements don't have any voice if there is not an issue in the first place. If the borders were controlled and immigration was regulated, then you have no Nazis gaining support. This is the side effect of these open borders policies in Germany. The liberal strategy is fundamentally flawed. Fighting racism through driving it underground is not the right approach. Its so sad.
- return0 10y agoAgree, but i hope some sense will be reinstated in europe. Merkel is the main culprit here and she is the one who will probably have to fix it.