Mine too. Mother-in-law called because she could connect to Internet. Turned out McAfee was just demanding their protection fee. So: McAfee bad. Cannot speak

Mine too. Mother-in-law called because she could connect to Internet. Turned out McAfee was just demanding their protection fee. So: McAfee bad. Cannot speak for Kaspersky, haven't used it for years. Defender is OKish. But one that I sometimes recommend is Vipre from Sunbelt Software. My builds are slightly faster with it and on one occasion it took down an infection that no other AV I tried managed. (Of course this can just be because the malware writers didn't care to code in resistance to it but then again it supports Kasperskys claim that diversity is good.)