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I cant help to feel sad for the monkey. I'm not sure this is the way research should be done. Why not try this on a smaller scale animal first before doing it o
by TeeWEE 10y ago
I cant help to feel sad for the monkey. I'm not sure this is the way research should be done. Why not try this on a smaller scale animal first before doing it on a monkey?
Also you don"t need to cut the spinal cord todo data analysis.
- fdej 10y ago"The experiments are more of a progression than a sudden breakthrough: they are based on a decade of work in rats, Courtine says, and the monkeys reacted in very similar ways."
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- kayoone 10y agoDo you also feel sad for the millions of animals that live in miserable conditions for months/years just to be eaten by us afterwards? This is arguably less of a torture to a much smaller number of animals, yet it is heavily regulated in most countries.
- popol12 10y agoMonkeys are so close to us genetically speaking. You can't compare a monkey with a cow.
- TeeWEE 10y agoI have a lot of friends who are farmers. Those animals dont live in miserable conditions. And when they are killed, its in an instant. Heck i even feeded cows and pigs. Its something different to experiment on a living animal. However I do understand its important for research. However its a difficult subject.
- Chris2048 10y agoYes.
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- FullMtlAlcoholc 10y agoBecause of this sentiment, western nations are going to be leaps and bounds behind China and other nations when it comes to technologies /treatments derived from CRISPR. When George Church and ithers called for a moratorium on CRISPR based research, Chinese scientists said suit yourself and cintinued doing research on it. When the day comes that wr can cinduct research like this with simulations and can spare beasts unnecessary pain, im all for it. I find it more peculiar that people will treat a dog or other subhuman creature better then they will homeless person.
- theonemind 10y agoWe could also make even faster progress by experimenting on humans. If China does that, perhaps we should also do it to keep up with them. We could solve the homeless problem at the same time. I tend to agree that western nations will lag, but I don't think that makes a good argument for doing it.
- FullMtlAlcoholc 10y ago> We could also make even faster progress by experimenting on humans. Do you find animal testing in the service of medical research unethical? I'm not advocating for animal testing for cosmetics, fashion, or profit, but in the service of saving human lives or something similar to the simian heroes of NASA
- adrianN 10y agoI think that "if we don't do it, the reds will get there first" is not a good argument in an ethical debate. Maybe the argument that right now people are suffering because they can't walk or have some other affliction whose cure requires animal testing carries more weight.
- FullMtlAlcoholc 10y agoConsidering Americans how much meat Americans consume, there really shouldn't be an ethical debate. Killing animals to save human lives is more ethically sound than killing them because they taste delicious.
- PetitPrince 10y agoCourtine's lab have already done a lot of experiments on rats for several years now [1]. [1]: https://youtu.be/ejwEqpV8ak4 https://youtu.be/ejwEqpV8ak4
- vblord 10y agoJust curious what you would think if they cloned a monkey and then did the operation to the cloned monkey? Would you still feel sad for the monkey if you knew that the only reason it existed was for this one purpose?