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Good item, including most especially citing the single person who turned this part of Snopes into a sad joke, and linked it to her clear expressions of Left/Dem

by hga 10y ago

Good item, including most especially citing the single person who turned this part of Snopes into a sad joke, and linked it to her clear expressions of Left/Democratic political biases. This really hasn't been a good year for Establishment Authorities, has it?

pjc50 10y ago
What does "Establishment" really mean here, other than "left wing"? I mean, a lot of people would say that a billionaire property developer was pretty "establishment". What do you make of the rumour (I think it's still a rumour rather than confirmed?) that Steven Mnuchin will be Treasury secretary? Would you call him "establishment"?
- hga 10y ago
  Don't know who Steven Mnuchin is. "Establishment Authorities", and I should emphasize I'm talking about "Authorities", not, for example, the ever more loathed GOPe(stablishment), on the Right who haven't exactly covered themselves in glory this year include: National Review (NR/NRO) Erik Erickson and his Redstate website (a leading article the day after the election was "Is Trump [an] Antichrist?") Hugh Hewitt Pajamas Media but only in general, dissent was allowed, then again, if they'd purged co-founder Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds... The Weekly Standard and very notably its founder William Kristol, who has the true neo-con pedigree as the son of Irving Kristol I think the latter's Commentary, except they pay-walled themselves out of relevance.... Oh, what about NRO's Kevin Williamson telling the Rust Belt people who provided the margin that elected Trump that: The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. That's from http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432876/donald-trump-white-working-class-dysfunction-real-opportunity-needed-not-trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432876/donald-trump-wh... and deserves a particularly special place in the Decline and Fall of most of the US Right's "Establishment Authorities" in 2016, especially when he and his organization doubled down on it. Possible exception, who's part of NRO, Pajamas Media, and the Hoover Institution (which means it's much harder to purge him), Victor Davis Hansen, but he's an odd duck in so many ways. Ask and I can come up with more ^_^.

by hga 10y ago

pjc50 10y ago

What does "Establishment" really mean here, other than "left wing"? I mean, a lot of people would say that a billionaire property developer was pretty "establishment". What do you make of the rumour (I think it's still a rumour rather than confirmed?) that Steven Mnuchin will be Treasury secretary? Would you call him "establishment"?

hga 10y ago
Don't know who Steven Mnuchin is. "Establishment Authorities", and I should emphasize I'm talking about "Authorities", not, for example, the ever more loathed GOPe(stablishment), on the Right who haven't exactly covered themselves in glory this year include: National Review (NR/NRO) Erik Erickson and his Redstate website (a leading article the day after the election was "Is Trump [an] Antichrist?") Hugh Hewitt Pajamas Media but only in general, dissent was allowed, then again, if they'd purged co-founder Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds... The Weekly Standard and very notably its founder William Kristol, who has the true neo-con pedigree as the son of Irving Kristol I think the latter's Commentary, except they pay-walled themselves out of relevance.... Oh, what about NRO's Kevin Williamson telling the Rust Belt people who provided the margin that elected Trump that: The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. That's from http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432876/donald-trump-white-working-class-dysfunction-real-opportunity-needed-not-trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432876/donald-trump-wh... and deserves a particularly special place in the Decline and Fall of most of the US Right's "Establishment Authorities" in 2016, especially when he and his organization doubled down on it. Possible exception, who's part of NRO, Pajamas Media, and the Hoover Institution (which means it's much harder to purge him), Victor Davis Hansen, but he's an odd duck in so many ways. Ask and I can come up with more ^_^.