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The CSP thing is something I've been looking at recently, and while it seems like it's a little bit lower-level than things like Rx, it seems like channels are

The CSP thing is something I've been looking at recently, and while it seems like it's a little bit lower-level than things like Rx, it seems like channels are more flexible streams (i.e. channels are two-way so you can do back-pressure etc.). I've been playing with https://github.com/ubolonton/js-csp https://github.com/ubolonton/js-csp and it's pretty nice; the "yield" statements everywhere are a little wonky, but otherwise it seems like you can implement some pretty sophisticated concurrency between processes with pretty straight-forward code. For examples of that sort of thing, David Nolen and James Long have written some really great articles on the subject: http://swannodette.github.io/2013/07/12/communicating-sequential-processes http://swannodette.github.io/2013/07/12/communicating-sequen... http://swannodette.github.io/2013/07/31/extracting-processes http://swannodette.github.io/2013/07/31/extracting-processes http://jlongster.com/Taming-the-Asynchronous-Beast-with-CSP-in-JavaScript http://jlongster.com/Taming-the-Asynchronous-Beast-with-CSP-... There was also an article recently that described a flux-like architecture using channels that I found pretty interesting, but I can't track it down right now.

shoover 10y ago
Those articles are excellent and held my interest since they were published, but at the same time React and Flux were exploding and I never saw any further talk of modeling UI logic with processes and channels. It is still in my notes: Take another look at Hoare CSP for UI programming perspective. I once asked David Nolen on twitter if he thought the CSP approach is still useful given the perspective of React/Om. He said yes but that was the extent of the conversation. In particular, I have yet to see any examples of integrating the CSP approach with React or similar architectures. For example, can you hook a process-based autocomplete widget into a React view? Is anyone doing this or have we rejected CSP for UI logic? I am interested if you can find article you mentioned.
- nickik 10y ago
  David has moved away from it, in OM.next you do not use CPS. You can of course, but it would only be a implementation detail and not fundamental to the structure of Om.next.
  - shoover 10y ago
    I think that's what I'm driving at: apart of the Om architecture itself, does it make sense to drop something like a CSP autocompleter into an Om app, or are those things incompatible?

shoover 10y ago

Those articles are excellent and held my interest since they were published, but at the same time React and Flux were exploding and I never saw any further talk of modeling UI logic with processes and channels. It is still in my notes: Take another look at Hoare CSP for UI programming perspective. I once asked David Nolen on twitter if he thought the CSP approach is still useful given the perspective of React/Om. He said yes but that was the extent of the conversation. In particular, I have yet to see any examples of integrating the CSP approach with React or similar architectures. For example, can you hook a process-based autocomplete widget into a React view? Is anyone doing this or have we rejected CSP for UI logic? I am interested if you can find article you mentioned.

nickik 10y ago
David has moved away from it, in OM.next you do not use CPS. You can of course, but it would only be a implementation detail and not fundamental to the structure of Om.next.
- shoover 10y ago
  I think that's what I'm driving at: apart of the Om architecture itself, does it make sense to drop something like a CSP autocompleter into an Om app, or are those things incompatible?