Flat can be fine with shadows (though if it has shadows is it flat?) and other hints but yes I think the desktop UI in particular reached it's peak with Win2k,

Flat can be fine with shadows (though if it has shadows is it flat?) and other hints but yes I think the desktop UI in particular reached it's peak with Win2k, everything since has been different but not better. These days I use XFCE with http://www.noobslab.com/2016/03/vivacious-colors-gtk-theme-suite.html http://www.noobslab.com/2016/03/vivacious-colors-gtk-theme-s... and it's nice.