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>Well you believe the premise of the ideology, so you are a part of it. Unsurprising that you think it is useful, that is what it claims. You believe in the pr

by placebo 10y ago

>Well you believe the premise of the ideology, so you are a part of it. Unsurprising that you think it is useful, that is what it claims. You believe in the premise of your claims so you are part of them - unsurprising you think they are true... :-) No - the only premise and "ideology" I believe in is that truth should be sought after, suffering should be minimised and happiness should be maximized. I find all other ideologies to be just various attempts to implement this base ideology from different contexts, and granted, not all them are perfect for achieving this. Sometimes, they even achieve the opposite. You might be surprised to know that there are plenty of things in the way feminism is sometimes interpreted that rub me the wrong way (you even mentioned some of them), but I think you're confusing the implementation with the goal. Feminism is defined as "the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men". This doesn't mean that women should be men. All it means to me is that if any woman as an individual is capable and interested in doing a "man's job" she should have an equal opportunity to do so and receive an equal compensation. Do you really have an issue with that?

facepalm 10y ago
At face value feminism sounds good - who would be against equality, indeed. Except that feminism is more than that: it is the claim that women are disadvantaged and equality means merely that women's situation has to be improved. Of course I don't take issue with women having equal opportunities for jobs. I take issue with the claim that they don't have that now. That is the unquestioned feminist assumption here. And I know there are some exceptions, like military, or models and so on - but by and large, women can do whatever they want. With respect to military, I would also have to say it might depend on women not endangering the mission. I wouldn't deny them the right to get themselves killed, but what if a woman is not strong enough to carry a wounded comrade out of danger? But I think by now they are allowed in the military in most countries anyway?

by placebo 10y ago

facepalm 10y ago

At face value feminism sounds good - who would be against equality, indeed. Except that feminism is more than that: it is the claim that women are disadvantaged and equality means merely that women's situation has to be improved. Of course I don't take issue with women having equal opportunities for jobs. I take issue with the claim that they don't have that now. That is the unquestioned feminist assumption here. And I know there are some exceptions, like military, or models and so on - but by and large, women can do whatever they want. With respect to military, I would also have to say it might depend on women not endangering the mission. I wouldn't deny them the right to get themselves killed, but what if a woman is not strong enough to carry a wounded comrade out of danger? But I think by now they are allowed in the military in most countries anyway?